Ashez
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2 hours ago, Holien said:
please prove us wrong and give us the same level of reports as Haiduk from the alternative perspective, we would love to see that level of reporting.
Oh I do enjoy Haiduk's military reports too and never question them -I do not have separatist friends to verify his data.
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I think you should ask Haiduk to get you passage to Ukraine. Amazing how much you all know without ever being there.
Haiduk, btw: are you a member of right sector?
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21 minutes ago, cool breeze said:
IMHO has been here since 2000 so I think him working for Putin as a propaganda agent is unlikely
No you are just falling victim to Kremlin propaganda! He is surely Putin's bot. Russian hacked USA elections, hacked power plants, they even seduced your democrat daughters to vote on Trump. God I know what you think when bulb in your basement burns out...
2 hours ago, IanL said:the bottom line is still that Putin's government is responsible for the invasion and occupation of Ukraine and
Nuland would be pretty pissed you give all the credit to Putin and blatantly try to depreciate her hard work and role in removal of democratically elected president.
Bottom line is you should stop this mantra. It's getting old. Everyone pretty much knows your stance on this conflict, no need to reiterate.
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1 hour ago, Haiduk said:
And yes, we want Javelins
'Want' and 'have' are different stories. I think you getting them would lead straight into Russian discovery of 'moderate' talibans and necessity of giving Houthis some better anti ship and anti air capabilities to fend off aggressors.
2 hours ago, IMHO said:its fragile economy
Its ruined economy and poverty. Fixed.
http://zik.ua/en/news/2016/11/23/ukraine_sinking_deeper_into_poverty__expert_996187
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4 minutes ago, LUCASWILLEN05 said:
I refer you to Eastern European History which I think you would do well to study. Poland and the Baltic States all have strong historical grounds to fear Russian agression nd indeed have been victims in the past.
I will reply in private,
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1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:
Without someone to bully NATO is nothing.....Just like Miller and his ilk.
Pretty sad men.
1 hour ago, IICptMillerII said:Well this makes sense, seeing as seizures and other health complications are quite common with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
And I though he'd prove to be decent and apology...
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1 minute ago, IICptMillerII said:
Well this makes sense, seeing as seizures and other health complications are quite common with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.
Sorry, I do not understand. Can you tell me more?
2 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said:Oh I'm sure.
I don't know. You want me to give you all my keys?
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18 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said:
I do have one question for you Ashez ("of the contemptible West" which I assume is your full title) which is, do you even own Black Sea? Or are you just here to grace us with your hysterical comedic parodies of the world?
I am CM player since the beginning on the company.
18 minutes ago, IICptMillerII said:Now this, this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Gotta give credit where its due.
Though this post doesn't warrant a serious response, as it is pure comedy, I can muster this image:
Funny, because everything on this forum which is not military but politicaly related that is said by US or Canadian players on this forum produces unstoppable seizures of laughter for everyone closer to Russia.
You try to build impression or Russia using your own standards. Russia in anachronic in many ways but trying to compare it by own social or economical standards is a pure folly and must bring false results,
It is same as trying to compare Saudi Arabia chances in 1vs1 confrontation against Iran.
And I don't contempt West. I just warn you are far off in your estimations. I do contempt hypocrisy. And your government mastered it to perfection long before Russians learnt it.
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Just now, sburke said:
Errr tell that to the Czar and his family. You really need to try a different medical regimen dude, you are hallucinating again. See New York during 911? It didnt exactly implode.
Now you try to offend me again? Ar you a kind local jester? How old are you?
In case you haven't followed your own elections let me remind you that west and east coast USA is not the same USA as the rest. Don't even make me start on inequalities between rich and poor or just black and white. One act of solidarity during terrorist attack is irrelevant.
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6 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:
The Russian economy is totally dependent upon trade with the West. If the West were nuked (or even conventionally attacked), at a minimum all trade with Russia would cease with all countries of economic significance. All financial assets held by Russian interests would be frozen, it would be effectively cut off from the Internet, and overnight the Russian economy would collapse worse than anything it has ever seen, including the chaos of the 1990s. Russians would likely not be too happy with that outcome. Certainly the oligarchs would be pissed. And there would be other moves, such as cyber attacks and conventional actions which Russia could not fully counter.
Which is why talking nukes isn't really all that interesting. If it happens, we're all screwed in some way. But in all scenarios Russia will cease to exist even if not a single nuke hits its territory.
I really think you underestimate Russian resilience. The dependencies are mutual, half of Europe depends on Russian natural gas. Economic crisis would be world wide, it would all boil down to question if you can feed your people and keep alive as many as possible. I am sure Russia would survive limited nuclear exchange as a state easily, people in Russia can swallow a lot. USA however would not. All tensions -racial, regional and others -supressed by authorities during the peace time would make the country implode. USA is the single western country where during one natural disaster the rest of the world could see pictures of gangs shooting police helicopters.
People in Russia are tougher. It is really hard to break them. You can hurt them but not break. This is why any serious Russian 'opposition' matters only in western media. One more thing about Russian leadership: Putin is predictable. He lies but no more than US dep.of state or so called 'intelligence community'. Russian diplomacy is predictable and respected by everyone outside transatlantic area. I would fear what happens when Putin is out. With Shoigu you may have Russian hawks in power and probable war. And they will not ignore McCain or Graham's insane mumblings, warmongering and hostility.
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1 hour ago, Erwin said:
Not 100% sure I understand what you meant.
OK. Things go really nasty - no matter how and who was responsible for escalation. Russia goes nuclear and drops just 2 nukes. One on Warsaw, one on Vilnius. Many people fear USA is the only NATO country that would be ready to do anything other than talk or condemn. NATO can easily draw EE countries into conflict, test where the red line is and then step back.
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6 hours ago, LUCASWILLEN05 said:
It is not Germany that feels threatened. It is Poland and the Baltic States. Given the previous history and the way Moscow has been behaving over the last two or three years in particular these states have good reason to feel nervous. They have seen what happened to Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine. You need to view the situation from the perspective of Warsaw, Riga etc
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26526053
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31759558
NATO membership of course isan insurance policy for Eastern European governments.
In strategic terms irt would be a significant coup for Moscow to bring Belarus under Russian control. Russian forces based in Belarus could, in a future war be used to mount a direct invasion into Poland and/or into the Baltic State linking up with Kaliningrad. Given that NATO forces might well still be in the process of mobilizing and deploying to Eastern Europe these Russian moves would be highly disruptive and potentially result in a situation where the Baltic States are overrun and Poland knocked out of the war generating an early battlefield success for Putin with important political ramifications
Again, it is a pure political fiction. And please don't throw Poland and the Baltic States into the same bag, Poland doesn't have Russian minority and the only people that speak Russian in Poland are Ukrainian migrants and students. Poland feels nervous about Russia since always so nothing new here - with politicians being most nervous - as usually.
I think only Baltic States may have some legitimate concerns, though military action is unlikely. Belarus is out of question, any influence attempts by NATO countries are likely to provoke war. Don't get fooled by Lukashenko's maneuevers -almost no Belarus citizen would ever act against Russians.
Some other concern of eastern europe's NATO countries is fear of a potential local small scale nuclear attack - many people in Poland are convinced NOONE in NATO except USA would ever react in other way than starting immediate de-escalating negotiations.
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48 minutes ago, John Kettler said:
While the lease, which is legally rock solid
Sure, as many post colonial laws, where strong enforced their will upon the weak. $7,000,000 a year is much? Are you kidding me? Lease of that part of the land should be worth 100 times that amount. I guess Iraq should be happy about the big fortified US compound in the middle of Baghdad due to how it stimulates their economy too? Not only rock solid legally but even established in accordance with their constitution. Too bad you wrote it.
Back to Guantanamo:
Platt Amendment was nothing but an instrument designed to control, occupy and exploit Cuba. Legally rock solid - by the standards you set.
John, it is pointless to go case by case throughout all the history. All I wanted to show USA is not even a tiny bit above Russia on morality ladder despite what you all claim. Even if you forget all other things, just remember 'Iraqi Freedom".
The whole anger about Russia comes from the fact they did what US plannists did not expect. All US government and media propaganda and often hysteria is on borderline with sheer absurd. Don't be like Jen Psaki.
BTW: Your new president would agree.
O’Reilly told Trump that Putin is a killer. Trump’s reply: ‘You think our country is so innocent?’
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4 hours ago, sburke said:
Crimea solo Russian occupation which it initially denied then had the vote under gun point= Good
Sure....Russian majority had to be pointed with guns to vote for joining Russia:-)
Especially concerning the average salary gap...*sigh*
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12 minutes ago, Baneman said:
So ethnic Albanians became the majority in Kosovo and wanted independence = BAD
Ethnic Russians in Donbas Ukraine wanted independence from Kiev = GOOD
I'm confused - somehow there's a difference here, but I can't see it...
I just show NATO double standards.
Kosovo (Albanian majority) independence = GOOD. Crimea (Russian majority) = BAD
To be honest every land grab is bad, but borders are not set in stone, never were and never will be.
Just look at Guantanamo. It has NOTHING in common with a fair deal, lease 'agreement' was forced on Cuba by USA. This is just occupation.
You can't just accuse others of what you have been doing yourself since forever.
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30 minutes ago, sburke said:
exactly as NATO took Kosovo... errrr what? Russia occupied and annexed Crimea as part of Russia. What NATO country is Kosovo a part of again? I looked at a map and it isn't clear. Umm Austria? Greece maybe.
Troll
if you are not aware that NATO stole a piece of historical Serbian heartland to create Albanian enclave there (and NATO base of course), you have some serious modern history...deficiencies.
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8 minutes ago, sburke said:
Fixed that for you. You're welcome
Oh you overlooked one detail. Russia does it when large Russian ethnic population is involved, in russian - speaking countries and having a long standing economical or political ties with Russia. USA does it all the time regardless of the place on earth.
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17 hours ago, Lethaface said:
You can't denounce a poll (whatever it's worth) by stating that it is old and the spectrum has changed, without quoting a similar poll showing the results your claiming. PS you misquoted the city where the decisions are being made regarding the war in Ukraine. While Washington has held the strings on most wars since WWII, and probably will do for another 100 years, it is Moscow that is controlling the war in Donbass as it was Moscow that annexed the Krim, without any support from Washington. Or do you claim Washington annexed Crimea?
I quoted latest Gallup poll, you must have overlooked it, and it shows that NATO support in Ukraine is going down again.
Of course Russia annexed Crimea (exactly as NATO took Kosovo) but Russian action (though probably pre-planned) was reactive in nature.
And to be honest: if NATO soldier would ever step his foot on Crimea, the Russian leader who allowed it would be portrayed as the worst ever in Russia's long history.
Crimea is just too important.
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18 hours ago, Holien said:
What bollocks...
". I guess they started to realize that war won't be over until Washington allows it"
Please stop trolling this thread.
Russia is the sole cause of this war and a bully picking on their neighbours.
So. Have you decided to offend me because I breached your alleged 'morality advantage'? Because constant meddling in sovereign countries' internal issues is NOT what USA usually does? Or because your own government fuels Saudi genocide in Yemen while Fallon and Johnson speak out their anti- russian catchphrases?
Is this forum 'NATO pov only' and everyone who questions its goals is a troll?
BTW. War in Ukraine cannot be decided by military action, and there will be no full-scale russian offensive. Sorry to disappoint you transatlantic military fans.
Anyone wants to bet?
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23 minutes ago, sburke said:
Just exactly what are you saying is the dangerous info there? That the US would support a particular faction of the gov't? Expressing their opinion on how to work with whom within the factions opposing the Russian backed guy? Umm sure that is how we overthrew the Ukrainian gov't And the Russian military invasion, how does that level of intervention fit compared to this..........
Sorry Baneman you are just totally wrong! - 2 Americans having a phone conversation trying to figure out how the dice are falling in Ukraine is certainly far superior data to Russia's infiltration of every aspect of Ukrainian gov't, massive bribes and outright military intervention. Nasty Amerikanski!!!
No....it is plan to install a puppet prime minister in a foreign country discussed by two high ranking US officials.
I am pretty confused if you don't see anything wrong about it.
Oh. BTW, USA NEVER do it.:
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37 minutes ago, Baneman said:
Come again ?
How did NATO ( a military organisation ) have anything to do with the Ukrainian uprising ?
I must have totally missed all the footage of the NATO tanks rolling into Kiev ...
Conspiracy theory alert !
NATO tanks wouldn't do the job. 5 bln $ invested by Nuland and Brennan certainly helped. And doesn't NATO follow US footsteps.?
This is how Ukraine's fate was decided and the role USA played: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
Just disregard naive journalist comments.
It is a fact, not a theory. Fact. I gave you bbc source so you feel more comfortable. Not 'undisclosed source' quoted in WP. If you look for conspiracy theory, accusations without single proof, stick to other british media: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/19/montenegro-plot-shows-russias-urge-destroy-reject-imperial-fantasies/
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2 hours ago, IanL said:
But, there is no logical way that NATO should be viewed as a threat to anyone. The fact that people believe that it threatens them is due to Putin's propoganda. So, saying "see people think NATO is a threat" is not evidence that it actually is it is only evidence that there are people who have been sucked into the propoganda. It is a laughable circular argument that proves nothing other than it would be good to counter that propoganda with some facts and perhaps some counter propoganda.
Why? That 'propganda' explanation is a bad excuse. The fact is that NATO is one of the most (if not the most) aggresive military pacts in history with unprecedented military expenditures exceeding in total more than everyone else banded together. Ever expanding, with every year littering more and more countries with military bases. A military alliance in permanent state of war, from aggresion against Serbia and Kosovo land grab, through invading and ruining Iraq (and imposing artificial constitution that will soon make the country implode), invading Afghanistan, ruining Libya and supporting terrorists in Syria. Helping Ukrainians to remove their democratically elected president.
And everything of this coupled with hypocrisy of politicians from manipulating own public opinion to outright lies - like in Iraq's case.
Russian ship near US coast is 'BAD', US ship in the Black See is 'GOOD'. Russian planes are 'spying', US planes just 'gather intelligence'. Russian planes are 'provoking', US planes 'give a strong message'.
Just read ANY US/BR media. The same bias. Daily.
NATO is so powerful noone would attack it, and no NATO member was EVER attacked. NATO serves but one purpose: to further military agenda of its members.
Why those people view NATO as threat? Not because of Putin's propaganda (what a silly concept that people do nothing but pursue only Putin's media sources)[to be honest Putin propaganda pales in comparison to anti-russian hysteria based on 'trusted sources', unconfirmed and fake news/allegiations displayed in US media].
They view it as threat because people don't want another regime change and civil war in their own country, they are afraid of being invaded and displaced for 'democracy' or because their ruler/dictator is not US own 'son of the bitch'.
Russia has its own agenda and ambitions and traditionally its neighbours seek protection among Russia's enemies or just rivals. But they don't spam hundreds of their bases far away from home near US or Canada's borders.
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"there is no logical way that NATO should be viewed as a threat to anyone"
My God. 700.000 dead and displaced in Iraq only. Disfigured children born after depleted uranium extensive usage. Superimposed constitution. Weak government. Raise of IS.War upon war. What kind of hypocrisy and propaganda level it took to call it "Operation Iraqi Freedom"?
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2 hours ago, Haiduk said:
Not any new information in that
Sure thing. But majority of thread participants seem to be unaware of this fact. Time to educate them that Ukrainian citizen with different view is not necessarily a 'pro russian traitor' and there are many millions of them.
2 hours ago, Haiduk said:Last polling of Kyiv International sociology institute in May 2016
May 2016? That poll is already old. NATO support is sliding down again and I agree with Gallup people in Ukraine are already tired. I guess they started to realize that war won't be over until Washington allows it. And after all those warlike vows from politicians noone wants to tell people Crimea is lost and not coming back in foreseeable future.
2 hours ago, Haiduk said:Most of that 30-35 % of population are people older 40-50 years
They are country citizens, they can still vote. They are not 'potato beetles' (like you call separatists) you can't just shut them down.
2 hours ago, Haiduk said:which have old stamps of Soviet/Russian propaganda
Sure now when they are free they must watch Poroshenko's own TV channel :-)
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26 minutes ago, folkieredux said:
Ashez, Why do use such an insulting profile picture on a forum like this? It's childish and offensive
With all respect, I meant no offence. This thought provoking idea behind the picture was counterbalance to other profile pictures I saw here freely mocking the head of other country. And hearing some politicians and journalists I know where it is coming from. If Putin deserves a place at someone's avatar so certainly Obama does - means employed by both were a bit different but they strived to achieve similar results-enforce their will on weaker countries and project power. Both of them are responsible or co-responsible for thousands dead and several hundred thousand displaced. It is a shame only president of one country got all the attention.
That said, if you feel personally offended I can remove that picture for now.
US Strykers spotted in Syria.
in Combat Mission Black Sea
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Interesting how strong or weak Turkey will come out - any independent Kurdish state would be a disaster for Turkey, still they are unable to break US-Kurdish alliance.
" The US-led international coalition against ISIS has “deliberately” deployed forces from the US army to Manbij in northern Syria, to “reassure” the Manbij Military Council (MMC), an ally of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), and “deter aggression” against them, the spokesperson for the coalition said on Saturday. "
Does it mean they are deployed to hold Turkey at bay?