thanks for the answers -- none of this has slowed me down in my playing and I am better--you all do realize that my fussing is not real-- I too would rather have the game as is than still be waiting--spolier----------------- The T62 was in follow the Euphrates- if you have played you know and I waited until it got to the intersection and blasted it with an M1-- it is possible something other was loaded than a sabot-- anyway he survived returned fire and took out one of the M1s?-- the other took him out and the neat thing was when the T62 expolded it was nose down in a crater and it blew in the building next to it-- sometimes I find my self just watching--cool game- as is CM1 although I rarely play them now