JG53_Jaguar

Tigers firing at T-34s M43 from point blank range...AP shells bouncing off as well... I'm not saying that its broken but perhaps can be double check to make sure all is well.

I just played this battle in my german campaign and I have to say I had a blast. I'm getting a feeling that TOW is really tank platoon simulation. At least on that level from my perspective the game works well. I don't like how the campaign progresses, I'm either playing with Pz IIs and very early IVs and then I jump straight to Tigers and stuff. What happened to 1942 year ? Where are some Pz IIIGs, H, J or L models ? Since Stalingrad was such an important battle on the Eastern Front how come its not in my campaign. I'm not impressed at all with the campaign from german perspective. Yes TOW is gem in a rough...I can see how some things work well and I think there is a good base...but the engine needs some work. I also noticed today that I don't need infantry at all with tanks, its easy to spot the enemy infantry and eliminate them. I didn't bother using the infantry in Prokorovka and I didn't have the need either. Oh and yeah the graphics engine is impressive; seeing my platoon Tigers rolling on the steppe was incredible! [ April 28, 2007, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: JG53_Jaguar ]

yeah I just had a blast with St Lo...easy victory for my panzer troops didn't even have to use two tigers. You know when the game works...no LOS issues...AI making stupid decision this game is a lot of fun but when it doesn't work it's a torture.

Yeah thanks Destraex, it worked. I copied St Lo battle from campaign to single player mission folder. I had a blast with this mission...didn't even had to use my Tigers...easy victory. What a difference compared to my campaign. In my current mission all I have are lousy IICs and IIFs and those damn russian 45mm AT guns are just wiping the floor with me.

Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it!

The Battle before the battle of Seliger I had 3 Pz Mark IVCs and 1 Pz Mark IIIF. In the current battle - Battle of Seliger all my tanks were removed from my force and the units that I'm allowed to buy are only Pz Mark IIC and IIF - what the heck happened to my Pz Mark IVCs ??? They were in good condition in the previous battle and didn't suffer any casualties. There will be T-34s again in this mission, what am I suppose to do with my Pz Mark IIs...throw rocks against those T-34s ? The campaign refit logic just doesn't make sense to me...maybe I missing something, guess I should read in the manual. Did anyone come across this issue besides me ? Peter

I think TOW has potential but its not quite there yet. Units don't follow orders as they should. Example when I give an order to a tank to face the front; I don't give a damn if on the flank there is a damaged enemy tank and it can't fire at me. Don't turn your vehicle towards that unit, period! If a unit is being shot at I want some kind of voice feedback...it's been done 10 years ago in CC, so what's the problem ? Ok fine, I can live with infantry not being able to enter buildings. What I'm having hard time is the campaign...too few missions. I don't feel connected with my units. I get the base of my units so I spend some points to add more. When I finish the mission, the units that I bought are gone, why ? I bought a stug D in one of the missions in the next mission that unit was gone ? How is this interesting for me ? What's the point of the medals...really ? Why am I using Pz Mark IVC!!!! in November 1941 in Rissia ? After all the battles I have been through should i see some Mark IVEs or even Ds would be nice! Why am I still stuck with Pz Mark IIIFs in November 1941 ? How about giving me a choice at list for some G, H models ? I don't like the laser guided targeting of the enemy AI ATGs. Give me vehicle reverse movement that works 100% of time. Where the heck is smoke ? Where are German AA 88s guns ? I hate the camera system. I have a huge map and the scenario map is so small...why can't I move the camera outside of the scenario space ? I have a huge map around yet the camera movement is so limited. There are some LOS issues as well. Oh and where are mortars ? I think it's not a bad game but from my point of view its not polished and the campaign is lacking. I was glad that I had to chance to play but I'm currently not much interested going back to it until I see a patch or add-on. There isn't simply enough there in the game to make me interested. Peter

Ok I was playing Battle for Moscow, I drove my 3 Mark IVC and Assault Gun Stug D within I don't know how close to those damn 34s but lets say I could fit maybe 3 - 5 Pz Mark IVCs between my tank and the T-34s since Mark IVC is about 5.9m long then say 20 - 25 meters distance. Ok let's forget what my IVCs were doing but I had my Assault Gun firing point blank range (15 - 20m distance) doing a FLANK shot to a T-34, using AP or Heat...fired 4 times and nothing...not a damn thing. With that kind of range the T-34 turret should have been blown off never mind penetrating the T-34 through the track area. Those T-34s simply panicked and run away. Btw the engagement took at the place were those T-34s arrive. So me getting sick and tired firing at those T-34s I turned my assault gun towards the trench area. Lo and behold BT-7 shows up and within 1 shot disables my Assault gun. Sorry but I'm not pleased with the result...you gotta be kidding me.

I thought Dunkirk was hard...it took me a while to complete that one. In the end I didn't loose a single tank. Though I had few immobilized. Here comes Moscow, holy smokes it makes Dunkirk look like a training mission. I have no problem with any of the guns but those T-34s are really tough to deal with. Do we have German AA 88mm guns in the game ? I sure hope so cause I'm just about to call the division commander to send me one or two of those One other thing....shouldn't I be getting Pz Mark IV Es by the time I hit Moscow ? There were only about 130 Of IVCs ever built. I'm surprised the German still has some left for Russian campaign in 1941. Even IVDs would be an upgrade... [ April 22, 2007, 06:42 PM: Message edited by: JG53_Jaguar ]

Allow camera to be moved outside of scenario space by default (Add this option into to the game options - camera screen). When I issue rotate command I expect my tanks units to follow the order. Rotate the hull as I have requested. If they like they can rotate the turret as they like it but I expect the hull to be rotated as I requested.

I'm in for a dynamic campaign add-on as well.

I believe the way "Rotate" command works is not really that useful. I give you an example: I have 2 german tanks that have disabled over long distance a french tank. Now I realized that my Mark IVCs simply don't have the power to knock it out from this distance. So I have decided to hold fire. The french tank kept firing on my tanks until he run out fire. Now from my left flank there some incoming fire from another tank. Now I give the rotate left command so that I have my tank front armour facing the incoming french tank from the left. well since the enemy enemy tank didn't arrive my tanks have decided to rotate back and focus on the disable french tank. Now you realize my dilema when the left tank shows up; he fires of a shot on the left flank of one my Mark IVCs and disables it because my tanks are looking somewhere else. If I issue a rotate command I except the tank commander to follow my order and ignore whats on the battlefield....

Hi Madmatt, Ok what do I have to change in the mission file; what variables. Also any chance this would get addressed in the game interface in the future ?

I noticed something today by playing the Dunkirk mission. This map is very small and when I'm moving my units close to the edge of the map I can't view my units properly if I want to maintain the same view angle. The camera movement space should be BIGGER than the scenario space. There is a huge map around the scenario map why is my camera movement only restricted to that little square on the map ? Please look into this...

Ok DalaVega...you do have a point...I will try the save game system.

Ok thanks I will try that - one volunteer idea as a scout. I don't like to do quicksave/quickload thing...it makes me feel like I'm playing FPS.

I'm crying here laughing my head off

Dude tell me, how did you make that one guy volunteer None of the SOB I have want to volunteer for anything.

Looks like we both have 3 squads...perhaps that's our problem I'm a tank guy...I can't help it

What's your force composition ? The problem is also I don't have enough artillery support. I find that even though the map is big...I'm fighting on such a small little area. There isn't really much I can change from tactical perspective. Not enough room for me to do my own planning. Yeah I'm gonna try using the infantry as well...armour just doesn't work here. They are too close to the guns...easy kills.

I'm playing campaign as German. I had no problem in Poland but in Dunkirk those 75mm guns are killing my panzers. The enemy guns are all over the place and doing gun duels with them always ends up bad for me. My force: 2 Mark IVCs, 1 Mark IIIF and one T-35. This means I only have 3 infantry teams. I can't seems to be able to pass this mission. I tried front careful assault, I tried flanks...nothing... those damn guns are everyone 2 - 4 shots max and my tank is toast. I had a tank sitting far away on side of the map and an enemy gun in the objective 1 and the gun has no problem engaging my tanks yet I can't see the gun. I suppose this is because of my tank crew not being experienced enough ? The map is too small already so I don't have much room to maneuver around. The enemy AI is pretty tough and mine doesn't seem that good. What I don't understand why are my tanks chopping wood everywhere and not driving around the trees ? Peter

Yeah same happened here...contact sales@battlefront

Thanks, I sent an email to sales at battlefront.com

I have pre-ordered TOW but somehow I didn't receive any email from the website where I have pre-ordered from. i did however manage to grab and save the license number. The last page of the order did say that they would get receipt in the email but that was like 3 hours ago. Is this normal or should I contact someone at Battlefront ? Well I guess at 12:00PM tonight I should find out.

I did use the retreat function; and my panther turned around and got nailed in the rear by a IS-2. So yeah it doesn't work all the time... thanks guys