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Interesting info, Did you use 3 round bursts often? ever? When entering buildings, is it no quarter?

Shut up. You watch too many movies and are making us dumb by proximity. </font>

here's an example how stupid all this 'legality' of bullets is.. 1. I design a bullet that fragments on impact and an internal cavity of the bullet has a dose of instantly reacting chemicals that render the victem pain-free and unconscious. If he dies, he dies pain-free. If he lives, he will be easily handled and won't fight back also. 2. I design an insidious tracer element that burns at an extremely hot temperature. As the bullet fragments, it fills the cavity inside the person with burning particles. The pain is not bearable and will even fill the lungs with caustic smoke. 1. might be illegal yet 2. is not.

Next time I shoot a dog, I am going to bedazzle it with flashing lights while I wear my space-hamster goggles with filters that allow me sneak up on the canine. I will mount a white screen in front of the dog to measure the actual 'pink-misting' quotient. A diaper will be installed on the dog this time (my living room rug still smells).

Was Gaylord a dog killer also?

Isn't killing someone an untreatable wound? The most humane thing IS either not shooting someone at ALL...or killing them outright. If they can be put down so they lose conciousness, then thats OK also. They won't suffer and will bleed out that way. And they won't shoot back. But asking a soldier to constantly risk his life by using ammo that entails he risk his own life is stupid. Medical advancements have made most injuries treatable. Its amazing how gangsta morons are saved everyday at hospitals. [ December 07, 2005, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: shlitzzlipzz@hotmail.com ]

I shot a Dog in Reno..just to watch him s**t Hey Nidan why don't you lighten up yourself? I don't want to hear about your relationships at all.

Yes that's a muzzle-loading projectile. Pretty neat really. It plows through tissue evidently. Perhaps Nerd is suffering from PTSD? While I find his input interesting, I could do without the uncontrollable pontifications. I think that room clearing operations would still benefit from special rounds. I think some sort of high velocity 'sabot' type solution might work. Being struck by many projectiles quickly seems to have some benefit in putting down BG's. To suppress soemone in a room that you are in is quite a feat. Keep them hiding under the desk?

I am talking about room clearing operations. 5-10 meters is the average size room. But I still am not sure what you are going on about. And now I do not care either.

No ****, at five meters or less a blind man could hit something on full auto. </font>

In room-to-room fighting US troops do not use 3 round bursts? Given the short range when doing this, I find it hard to believe that they would not use the 3 round burst. The actual 'climb' of the weapon (after targeting COM) might be beneficial. Ive fired the M16A1 on full auto (using controlled bursts) and at 5 meters or less, using non-shoulder firing techniques, its not hard to hit a man sized target. I notice most US troops in Iraq use a shoulder type stance though. Shotgun Round Pictured earlier: Its actually a muzzle loader sabot round but why not have something like that for a shotgun? Suppression in CQB? Its a fight to the death with no quarter given. Alternatives: Its probably impossible to assure 100% total incapacitation. I wonder if any of these might work... Blinding technology. Intense flashing device that is introduced into the room or worn. Special filters on attackers goggles allow them vision while denying the defenders. A timing technology would 'filter' the goggles (using active material that blocks light when charged). The net effect is that anyone in the room is effectively 'blinded' while the attackers are entering. The attackers can gain room situation advantage and liquidate the defenders or decide they are not a threat and move on or take hostages. The weapon could be preceded by a traditional flash-bang and the attacking troops could alternate either waiting using it (to let a badguy reveal himself by firing), sending in one man (system activates and the point man could signal the rest to wait or immediately enter..the goggles have a small pop-up message). When the attackers are actually shooting, its shooting ducks in a barrel. IF the enemy fires, he is doing it blind. He will have his vision denied and the best he could do is fire in a direction. Its 'sort-of' night vision introduced in the daytime.

These non-hollow point type rounds supposedly plow a great path of destruction. A good round for a semi-auto shotgun? The sharp edges at the frontal extremity of the Devel bullet (fin ogive and tip), upon impact with game, cause deep lacerations. The fluted curvatures between the fins then cause a simultaneous high-pressure radial flow of target mass out into the wound channel. The resultant bleeding and organ trauma from the enlarged fin lacerations is what causes game to go down and stay down when shot.

I wonder if a combo bullet can be made that acts like a sabot round? Its a specialized round that is very high velocity using a sub-caliber sabot round. Much like the tank round in principal, but with the difference that the sabots are meant to fly to the sides but are also projectiles themselves. At close ranges, they are still viable maimers/killers. This would be a specialized round for entering rooms during MOUT. The actual 'penetrator' is very high velocity projectile (4000 fps) and designed to break-up due to the shape of the body. Its major effect is to rapidly induce a shockwave in viscous tissue. As the steel-tipped lead-bodied penetrator enters the target, it easily pierces most body armor. But its soft rear shaft will destabilize the round and cause it to fragment within the body. A 3 round burst from this weapon will deliver 9 projectiles (6 sabots and 3 penetrators). All forming a cone of destruction. Against someone with no body armor, it will tear them apart.

I shot a dog once. feces flew out his ass.

Ive shot large animals through the lungs. I didn't take home movies though. I have noticed that I have never seen a lartge animal go strait down from using arrows (low velocity in comparison to bullets).