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    Hizballa

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    How about this Sergie

    Lebanon is bordered by the med to the west,syira to the north and most of the east jordan to the rest of the east and Israel to the south

    if Syria is invaded the US would IMHO go in from the med in the west(access to more US bases and shorter supply lines from the europe

    the eastern front the would simply play the anvil to the 7th fleet's hammer in the west

    what does this mean

    Hezbolla is surrounded

    no support from Syria or Iran

    unless they dig a tunnel

    so for their own survival they would come to syria's aid because Isreal would march north and turn over every rock to root them out with no fear of syria or Iran intervening

    Iran would have to go thru US held/supported Iraq first

    and for them to even have a chance would entail nukes with no US response because otherwise they would have to grind them selves up crossing Iraq

    and the US could trade space to the rivers to regroup and see how good Iranian engineers can build bridges under fire

    Originally posted by Sergei:

    That doesn't justify it either. Forces can be given the kind of experience level that is desired, so you can have Syrian militia who are Veterans.

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    Live fire assymetrical tactic (hits Israeli navy)

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I don't see it as spin since the news networks had only seen a drone as a the only guided system that the terrorist had shown to date

    the news went with what they knew(seems they always jump the gun and get weapon systems wrong)

    can't tell you how many times I've seen the LA times call an F-16 picture an F-15 and other such mistakes

    also if it was a tv directed drone you would think Hesbolla could tell the difference between a freighter and a warship

    since the driver of the drone can see and identife his target

    a radar guided missle might be able to discriminate if the hardware and software are smart enough to do the job which the styx can't do

    I think now the Isralies will have their anti missle systems manned at all time s now and maybe mount a few 20mm-40mm manned weapons

    Originally posted by John Kettler:

    I think we're seeing spin at work. As I see it, the sequence went something like Israeli Saar? class

    patrol boat is hit by Hezbollah drone, an event which may or may not have been followed by a second strike which mistakenly hit the wrong (civilian) marine target. On the news here, it sounded like the impression Israel was trying to sell was that the report of an attack on one of its naval vessels was wrong and that Hezbollah had hit civilians instead. Further digging indicated one badly hit Israeli warship under tow following fires. Now, we are being told Silkworm. A Silkworm is essentially an SS-N-2 Styx, and one such hit would thoroughly destroy a Saar or anything like it, let alone two. And don't forget what happens when all that unexpended rocket fuel gets added in! Recall that it was the sinking of the Israeli destroyer Eilat by two Styx in the 1967 War which caused a convulsion in the world's navies when they realized how deadly cruise missiles could be.

    I strongly suspect it's both easier and less embarrassing to blame a big nasty cruise missile or two, with attendant opportunities for major finger pointing, than it is to admit that a terrorist group, armed with a fairly low tech weapon, put major hurt on an Israeli warship. Israel has long had jamming and hard kill measures in place to deal with the Styx and similar, but I can easily see how a small, slow drone, even if detected, might not be recognized as a threat, and therefore wouldn't be engaged. I say these things as someone who was once directly involved in fleet air defense studies against cruise missile attack

    from underwater, surface, and aerial platforms.

    Regards,

    John Kettler

    [ July 16, 2006, 10:04 AM: Message edited by: Beastttt ]

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    IED's?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    if they include IED's then hopefully they will model the various types

    then the US player can spend points on countermeasures

    cell phone det vs cell phone jammer

    simple rf vs rf jammer(with possible predetonation)

    command wired vs mk 1 eyeball/thermal imager

    emp vs electronic detonator

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    I knew Marines were tough, but... Hist Chan (Time Warner) now 8:48 p.m. PDT

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    IIRC the 106 has a .50 cal spotting rifle attached

    the cyclic rate for a m2hb is 600 to 800 rpm so a trained gunner could squeeze off single shots to simulate a 106 in spotting mode

    Originally posted by John Kettler:

    MeatEtr,

    There's a great example of this in one of those Wargames Research Group skirmish rule sets. I forget whether it was the 1956 War or the 1967 War, but in MOUT an Egyptian tank unit encountered an Israeli MG jeep recon unit, and both fled. Why?

    In the case of the jeeps, it's pretty obvious, but in the case of the tanks, it was all about psychology. The tankers ran into unexpected resistance and figured that if the opening argument consisted of HMG fire, then something much nastier was lurking nearby, such as 106mm recoilless rifle equipped jeeps the Israelis were known to have. With no infantry to protect them

    and a force of unknown size likely lying in wait, the tankers deemed discretion to be the better part of valor and split.

    Something similar seems to have happened that night at OP4 when the Iraqi tank advance unexpectedly got a very hot reception. I'll be the first to admit, thought, that the counterattack on foot was leagues beyond the jeep on tank encounter above.

    Regards,

    John Kettler

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    CM:SF Points values.

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    you could go on this model you just have to adjust HOW many points each side gets

    instead give the allied player 1000 pts and the Syrian/Asurbistan player 10,000

    Originally posted by GSX:

    A bit pointless as its not Soviets versus Allies and the Syrians wont field 200 T-55 to 4 M1's, more likely the US would field more armour in a given battle than the Iraqis, er sorry Syrians so if we are calculating points it will have to be done in a whole new way I think.

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    Syrian AA capabilities?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I got to say all the answers given were better than mine

    consider any counter battery unit will be able to see the signal coming from the wrong direction and act accordingly

    also figuring the attacker at 10,000' has already locked on to his target at 2000' and traveling around 500+mph how much target devation do think will happen in under 3 seconds(733.3'per second at 500mph)I would figure that the logic circuits would ignore any major jump in signal devation and remember the last location like a HARM

    Originally posted by Peter Cairns:

    Beastttt,

    Out of curiosity how does a plane at 10,000ft know that the GPS bomb it's just dropped is going to be jammed at below 2,000ft.

    And exactly what artillery is going to be used o fire accurately deep inside Syrian, that doesn't itself use GPS to aid terminal guidance.

    Peter.

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    Battle for Taiwan.

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I think it is more that it denies China(stops communism)

    the US would rather see democracy spread than communism(far easier to deal with someone who's values are closer to your own)

    also it is a step closer to japan if china deicided it wanted to add japan to the fold or avenge the past(some people cannot get past or over what has happened in the past)

    Originally posted by juan_gigante:

    Explain for me, Tagwyn (or anyone), how defending Taiwan is crucial to the US's international security. Please show how China reunifing with a tiny island that traditionally is a part of mainland China and is far from US shores or US interests will lead to harm to the US, or anyone anywhere. Tell me why a single American soldier should die to maintain an independant Taiwan.

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    Battle for Taiwan.

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I see China as being too vulnerable to attack sby aircraft off the coast and from the southwest from Afganistan

    4 688I's maybe add a seawolf or 2 and

    if they ever convert some of the older boomers to tomahawk platforms

    Nothing is going to cross the straits of Formosa and any coastal bases are going to get hurt bad

    add to that US carriers not in the straits

    But in the Pacific say 200 miles east

    fighting close to land were SAR will be most effective

    so unless the Chinese pull a surprise landing like in Red Storm Rising or Debt of Honor(both Tom Clancy books)with lots of onboard supplies that don't get destroyed before they can be offloaded and dispersed

    and getting a Pearl Harbor type blow(this time hitting the carriers and subs)

    I see no hope of them sustaining any kind of supply lines to hold what they might get

    [ February 02, 2006, 02:21 PM: Message edited by: Beastttt ]

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    US Marines

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    An attack to restore the previous goverment is not something that is going to draw NATO,UN,or the EU to try and get the USA to lead a charge into Syria

    What would get them is a WMD attack by a crazed Syrian leader with a zelot army to follow him

    I see a more posible scenario where Syria shoots it's wad on Israel(they close down not going to shoot nukes with the USA so close)take a few frieghters w/VX gas into USA east coast ports and a few meduinm ranged missiles into Europe and the UK with NBC warheads

    the trying to stir up as much chaos as possible

    and maybe even getting some old enemies to go at each other(could add India and Pakistan to the mix)

    Now that a hornest nest has been wound up

    you should have a coalition that would go into Syria and just to not leave anybody out Russia

    though caught with it's armies out of place are making noise to head south to take control of everything(a reason to leave US heavy units to hold the line to the north)

    leaving light units to take on the Syrians

    Nato might send some light units to deal with Syria while the heavy stuff moves east to threaten the russian flank

    the way I see it the only way get others to go your way is to have them in the same boat as you and in this one everybody gets slapped around and Syria is more of a side show l that starts it all like Serbia in WW I

    Originally posted by Peter Cairns:

    Steve,

    I am well aware of the security situation in Syria, but the issue isn't could the US take action (including military action) in the next two years.

    The issue is that, there is no realistic probability that the US could lead, let alone assemble a UN?Nato coalition to back a land invasion within two years. Hell this decade.....

    The talks to let Nato take over in Afghanistan, have taken a year and with only months to go, the Dutch haven't agreed to send troops to the south, and the French and Germans have refused. On the surface it will be portrayed as Nato acting in unision but the reality on the ground will be seperate forces with narrow national remits, a classic Nato fudge.

    Why for years did Nato have two Naval HQ's on the Iberian peninsula, one in spain and one in Portugal, The Soviet Threat, logistical need, no it was because the Spainish wouldn't serve under the Portugese and vica versa. Another Nato Fudge.

    The two highest defence spenders as a share of GDP in Nato are greece and Turkey, why, because the are staunch defenders of peace and freedom, no it's because although things have improved in the last few years they've spent the last forfty at each others throats.

    What does Nato say about that, nothing, why. because it doesn't fit in with the Public Face of the alliance.

    Hell when democartic ( if abit nutty) governments in both Greece and Turkey were removed in coup's what did Nato do, Nothing absolutely nothing.

    In the Balkans it took almost two years for Nato to get it's act together and take action, and when it did it was to late, badly planned and half hearted.

    Anyone who thinks that Nato could get it's act together in less than 18 months sufficently to react to a crisis come to an agreement and commit to military action is living in Cuckoo land.

    And as for the UN taking the lead, leaving aside the fact that current US/UN relations are almost non existant, well thats even more bizarre.

    Supporting Bush in Iraq, brought down the Polish and Spanish governments might still change the Italian one and has neutered Blair. The changes of any Western European force getting involved are unlikely, right now even the UK wouldn't probably commit ( though Blair might go for one last throw of the dice in an attempt to get a place in history).

    True it's only my view, but my view is that post Iraq, US/UN relations are in a mess, Nato is slow unwieldy and unresponsive and unlikely to be able to agree, there is no country in europe that would follow this US administation in too a war in Syria, sure a few politicians might, but not the public.

    Mostb of those in Afghanistan and Iraq are lookwarm about them and more likely to pull out of those than sign up for something new.

    Given all that and the fact that you can proceed with CM:SF exactly as it is without UN/NATO/EU support in the backstory, with any number of more plausible US and a few friends in Syria scenarios , why stick to it.

    It's a bit like the BMP-3 issue, I agree that it's not commercially viable to have very possible vehicle in, I can understand( and support) leaving out issues like helicopter landings, water and amphibious op,s or civilians because of there complexity, but to dig your heals in over the only vehicle that people have expressed a real interest in seems almost perverse.

    If there was a flood of sites for speciaslied versions of the T-72 ( although I accept your point that you can make a dozen variants for the effort of one unique), or if I had seen lots of post requests for vehicle after vehicle then I could understand it, but there haven't been.

    Two last things, I might start a topic on who thinks the Us could assemble a coalition within 18 months to go in to Syria, if you don't mind, and secondly,

    i don't want this to turn in to a fight, because a part from the fact that we agree more than we disagree, your a decent guy and I very much respect your views.

    But on this one I suspect that how most europeans percieve Nato and the US and how the US percieves Nato and europe are very different. and you telling me what my continent will do from your continent, well lets just say I'd be cautious about telling you what America would do.....

    Peter.

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    U.S. infantry to sense through walls?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    the easy counter would be to scan the building from the outside just to trip any boobytraps(yes I know you will not see anything but the IED might be set off prematurely getting the insurgents)

    Originally posted by Peter Cairns:

    Of course if it is a radra device then there is the possibility that the instant you turn it on to find if there is someone in the next room. any opponent with a range finder up to a mile away knows exactly where you are.

    It's find against a low tech opponent, but it should be greeted with caution. An opponent that can rig a sophisticated IED, might well be able to rig a backpack full of semtex to go off when one of these things is turned on in the room next door, and then it's Bye, bye, detector, bye bye, squad, bye bye building.

    Peter.

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    The Idiots Guide to Stryker MGS tactics

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    Ontos

    had 6x105 recoiless rifles

    it need to be reloaded from the outside rear

    for me give it a 75 he gun and mount a 2 rnd tow system

    you might be able to double it's ammo loadout

    and maybe 2 extra tow's to reload

    Originally posted by Wisbech_lad:

    Wasn't there an interesting ans useful direct fire mash up in Vietnam? Something on the lines of 4x90mm recoilless on a M113?

    I see the MGS as the spiritual successor of that. Agree that to go for MBT gun is a bit odd - but presumably cheaper than trying to design a new low pressure/ recoilless 105mm gun with an autoloader.

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    US flamethrowers?

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    that would be an air-fuel explosion

    c4 to burst the bottle and let the contents fill an area then a delay fuse to ignite the gassed area causing a lot of overpressure damage but little burn damage

    Originally posted by gunnergoz:

    How about the "house guest" used today in Iraq? Does it count? (...propane bottle + some C-4 explosive = warm adios to the occupants of the dwelling.)

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    clarifying what copy protection is to be used

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    having had Silent hunter 3 on my system(it has starforce)

    My burning functions where disabled

    and only by reinstalling the OS(Win XP)was I able to get it back

    customer service from both UBI and Starforce where both pretty much useless

    after a week of

    delete this reboot

    check that reboot

    delete this reboot

    they stopped any support

    I found out that this was common practice for them from others that had the same problem

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    At last, the full gamut of WW2

    in Modern Naval Battles - WWII At Sea

    Posted

    I playtested modern naval battles long long ago

    and I still have the basic game and the 2 expansions

    it is a fun game but if you want good wwii surface ship action get fighting steel and then the patch from Naval warfare simulations

    http://www.navalwarfare.org/~content/index.html

    they have really added a lot to that game

    Fighting Steel would be a closer sim to CM

    it is a 2d/3d real time sim the naval warfare guys have added Italians,French and Russians plus later ships that apper after 1942 plus some of the converted 1920's BC's that where made in to CV's

    the game does not have subs or aircraft attacks in the game

    aircraft attacks are handled as an after action report

    I will be getting this new card game when it comes out

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