Curry

He has really pushed me in the west. But my lines seem to be holding along the Rhine. However, let it be known the reason for this is due to Tech. I have never seen the American's do so well with Tech in a game. They are at AT level 4 and Jets level-4. I dont know where he got the resources to invest so much or he has just been very lucky. Even though I got level two with my one chit for Italy in AT his level 4 AT is a killer. Same is true for his Russian units which also have a high AT level. In the west I do hold the line and also destroy one of his Level-4 US jets. In the east the lines are now stable. I destroy two more Russia Corps. I am estimating that he is only getting between 130 to 145 MPP points a turn for Russia. [ June 19, 2004, 08:58 AM: Message edited by: Curry ]

only if they are from New Jersey. Like the New Jersey Devils. If you move Jersey you wont have anything to worry about.

IN THE EAST - lines finally becoming more stable. He pulled back in the north. He makes a small counter in the south. I kill off one corps and encirle another. In the north kill off another corps that was encircled. IN THE WEST - Lines also becoming more stable. I have pulled back to the Rhine. Pulled corps down to 1 out of Ansterdam to save it. He has two corps in and around Kiel now cut off. IN AMERICA: Normally I dont do this often. But he is doing it to me by sending corps that really have no chance of supply and are used just as commando units to take a city. So I landed an Ialian corps in American and have taken the southern most oil well.

It has come to this. His strategy is now throwing lots and lots of UK and US corps all over the place. All along the coasts, into the baltic, north sea coast. I hate that sort of stuff. Ok, if that be it. I kill off a crusier of his that comes into the Baltic with a mass of corps. I kill off several more of his units in Russia.

Moved and then forgot to update the AAR IN THE WEST - He killed off another one of my Ialian units. Bad. But I knocked off one of his UK jets which is very good for me. IN THE EAST - Like aesopp said our lines are very fluid. But I have the upper hand in that I can afford the losses and he cannot. He has large holes now in his lines and he is cut in two in Russia. He still drives for Lenigrad and has approached the city in north of it. My drives are in the south. He lost another couple of URRS units this turn which will be hard for him to replace.

Dont know how many moves into the Russian invasion. This was my move #95. IN THE WEST: The allies reinforce and no attacks made. I use that to pull back. I form a straight line of units from Amsterdam down south. Then another group of units in the south of France. Most likely will lose Broudox. IN THE EAST: He kills off a couple of my weakened armies. Bad news. But I hit back and destroy several of his units. Still have a couple in a pocket, he is just sending them east and I will have to clean them up. But they will be at zero supply. He is pressing me in Finland and around Lenigrad. But I am forming large breaks in his lines in the central and south. Russia is now broken into two as my units hit the map edge north of Stalingrad.

FUN GAME Hats off to Aesopo but I will prevail IN THE WEST: Yes, Paris has fallen. But that does not matter. Its not like in the real war. My air intercepts again. I lose Paris but I also regain the French mine. I fall back but I can hold the west. IN THE EAST: He continues to try to take Lenigrad and Finland for some reason. Go ahead. I instead take Voronezh. Another city lost to the Axis and more MPP points. This game is about MPP points my new friend and your oil fields are all at 1 or 2 instead of 10 in the south. He tries to form pockets out of my pockets of him, only to have me cut him off more. He is playing well but its a lost cause I still think. You should have played a forward defense with your ability and you would be doing better now. You are a good player but your strategy is flawed I think. But this is fun none the less.

Martin must be on vacation or he never checks up on us anymore. Hey, if the Doctor is gone maybe the inmates can do whatever we like.

IN THE WEST: Axis has to pull back. Allies with US at AT-3 are strong, capture French mine. But axis surround the corps that takes the mine and knocks its value in half. Italians pull back as well as air power in France. No British air attacking this turn so gives me a break to pull my troops back. The UK air had to be taking a beating too without a lot of MPP to replace all the loses we both had each turn before. I Will hold but may have to pull back more. WIlling to do so in order not to take away from my Russian front where I am winning. If Russia falls its all over. IN THE EAST: Lots of action as Russia tries for one more counter attack. In the north he is strong and he makes a drive against me in the north above Lenigrad. He also sends some units (foolishly I think) to attack above Moscow and enters my line and hits a HQ in the rear. I counter with my turn and form a pocket out of those units. 1 armor and 3 corps are pocketed and surrounded NW of Moscow. Around Voronezh is another pocket of two corps, rest of that pocket killed off. We sent a corps north of Stalingrad to the edge of the map and have cut the USSR in two. He saved up lots of MPP for Russia for I have killed lots of units. I think he is finally running out of MPP's and all his saved up MPP are gone. If I can hold in the west, which I shall even if I falls then game over. We all know that dont we. [ June 16, 2004, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: Curry ]

IN THE WEST The Americans are landing more and more troops. Getting harder for the Italians to hold. Ameriancs now line the coast from Brest to Amsterdam. But we still hold both Amsterdam and Paris. Each turn I usually lose one Italian army. I could pull men away from the Russian front but would rather not do that. My 3 Jets (level 4 now) intercept each turn and I know they have to be eating up UK MPP points. This turn the UK loses another BB to the weakened but still kicking Italian navy. The UK cant have many ships left. I just have to hold out long enough to finish off Russia. IN THE EAST: The Russian has lots of good units way north trying to work into Finland. So we work south and south central. We break through the line in several places and start to form pockets of Soviets. What will he do to try to reform his line? Pull units away from the north? Pull back? Or fight in the pockets? I will be interested to see. We have some troops make a break through above Stalingrad and accross that river almost to the map edge. ALmost breaking the USSR into two. In the south Stalin operated some troops to cover the souther breakthrough but that left other holes in his line. I am estimating that Stalin is now only getting 190MPP's a turn due to the Bombing of the oil fileds and most of Russia is in Axis hands. That is why I want to continue to press the eastern front and not take away any troops to help in the west. The Russian front is starting to have some major cracks in it. Oh, almost forgot. I need to add another leader to my headhunters. Timoshenko RIP. That makes: Konev, Chukov and now Timoshenko. All good 7 rated leaders who are resting in peace and out of the war. [ June 15, 2004, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: Curry ]

EASTERN FRONT: The Soviets seem to be trying to push into Finland and have made some progress in the drive north of Lenigrad. But we will halt that. The center is quiet for the most part. In the south the soviets counter attacked again. We held our own with both sides taking losses. This move two important Soviet cities have fallen to the Germans. Smolensk which the Germans have been at for some time finally falls. We could have taken it much earlier but was trying not to trigger the Siberian transfer. Once it came we have taken the city. In the south Rostov falls. The Soviets counter attacked north of the city but let the city fall and a corps moved through it making a drive into the MPP rich south and an army occupies the city. IN THE WEST: The front remains between Brest and Paris. Italians lost one army, the UK Navy retreats and two more UK naval ships are sunk. The Allies are going to have to move much faster and deeper if they want to help their Soviet allies.

Yes just order from Battlefront is your best choice.

War in all its force for the last two turns. In the East: The Germans now have level-4 Jets. The Russians have counter attacked in the east. I was expecting it. Let him come. Heavy loses on both sides which is in my favor. I have the MPP to replace my loses the Russian does not. I am bombing his oil in the south and out of his 4 southern oil wells he only had two with a strength of 1, and two with a strength of 0. That means he is now losing 114 MPP points a turn right now. I also continue to head hunt and go after his leaders, I attack with my air Chuikov and kill him. That is the second 7 rated leader to fall to the German Air head-hunters. Konev and now Chuikov gone from the game. I also have in the east a Carrier sitting in the port of Lenigrad, last turn it intercepted a Russian level 1 Jet and destroyed it. Can you guess which tech I also have with that? I learned this from General Rambo. A Carrier with level-4 jets in a port with AA can be damn mean. In the west The Americans have level 3 AT. Both sides also take loses. The Navies fight outside of Bordeaux. The Allies lose some ships while the axis are only damaged. I have three Jets with HQ support around Bordeaux, each time he attacks I intercept. That should keep the UK MPP points busy to keep his Level-3 jets supplies back in the UK.

Siberian transfer? Didnt see that - it should not have come yet. Oh well. In the east the Russian lose two armor and one army. In the west the Italians form a defensive line between Paris and Brest after losing Brest. Not worried at USA level 1 AT as Italy is also at level 1 AT. In Iraq the German bombers continue to pound the four southern oil fields. Not 99 MPP points lost per turn.

Not a waste of time, we all have to learn. I use to believe much the same when I was a rookie at this game. But when playing humans you cant play the same way that you played when you played the AI. My Italian fleet gets hit hard by everything the UK has but gives back as much. Only one BB sunk, all the rest pull back to the coast. My Italian armies are ready and waiting in France and one is operated into Brest. In Russia the only significant development in a line that has now become stagnant is the German Jets go headhunting. Following NATO doctrine they attack Konev and kill him off. One good Russian leader that will never come back. Our three bombers continue to pound the southern Russian oil fields, now up to something like 72 MPP's Russia is losing each turn.

waiting for turn still.

I thought Kuni had locked this........ I guess we need Martin, Oh Martin,,,,, please its been a long time since we have seen one of your

Suddenly a large invasion force appears off of Brest. It would appear every ship in the UK and US navy is there with some Armies and Corps and I am sure more troops outside of my viewing range. Papa Smurf is ready. - The full Italian Fleet with 4 experience bars and one German sub attacks, sinks the two US BB and heavily damages two UK. Three Level-3 Jets deployed with a HQ and ready near Bordeaux has many choices as to what to attack. They forgo the Army or crops or other UK Naval ships and instead choose a UK carrier and sink it. Second carrier Sunk so far. If he has not built any more than he only has one more. - Italian armies from Greece get operated up into France and join the armies that are already in France to push back any invasion. More are on their way if needed. IN RUSSIA. Quiet, just some attacks but not much. Forces getting redployed for another drive. A third Heavy Bomber joins the Iraqi air detachment in Iraq which is pounding Russian oil fields. Two Russian oil fields are now down to 0. That is 60 less MPP points each turn for the Russians.

No time Main items last turn 1. Greece falls to the Italians 2. Sevastopol falls to the Germans.

never got move

1. This entire thread belongs on the General forum and I hope this gets locked. 2. However, I agree with seamonkey. When the Sweedish politician was killed we all felt remose even though many of us were so far away from her politics. A little of the same respect and kindness I think would go a long way for all of us to get along. Some of that anti-Reagen, Anti-American bull **** really goes a long way to ruin good relationships. I wonder how the Sweeds on this board would have felt when after the Sweedish politician was killed we all told and said what we really felt about her politics and about Sweden in general. Not the best way to make friends and influence people for sure. 3. I hate the general forum. Its just a place of attacking each other for what each other beleives and respects. No one ever changes any ones view, all people do there is get polarized and show continual disdain for each other. Here, for the most part at least, we have shown respect to each other even though we realize some of us have major differences on politics, religion, military, and most importantly sports teams, (we all know the Tamba Bay Lightning are the best hockey team in the world! ). Come on and lets leave this sort of thing for the general forum. ps - we all know that out the 50 states to live in New Jersey is the worst, but none of us have picked on JJ for living there. Up to now anyway. [ June 11, 2004, 10:58 PM: Message edited by: Curry ]

same old same old, We begin to pound Sevespol to take it next. Russia will not push me back. I will only increase as my MPP is getting greater each move

Not much to report, Sev is surrounded on three sides and entrenchment is taken down to 0. Axis units continue to move north and south but stay away from Moscow. Bombers in Iraq continue to pound Russian oil fields.

Comrade, No Finland has not yet entered. Should soon. Gibralter has fallen. SeaMonkey - I understand. I am moving so fast in this game I cant do it any faster than I am. Lenigrade was in my plans as I like to take it for supply in the north and for MPP points. But I have enough units where it does not affect what I am doing in the south. In the south so far my biggest enemy is the distance to cover.

I think the problem many of us have with your strategy is it may work against the AI but it will not work against a human. 1. In France its best to hold out as long as possible. The longer the better. When I was a rookie I even tried to just pull out as many French units as I could. That is a rookie mistake in my view. 2. As Allies its best to try to delay the Axis and keep pestering the axis as much as possible. The danger of course is a Sea Lion invasion of England by doing too much of it. That is the risk I think you have to take to try to delay the Axis. But its best not to just sit idlely by and allow the axis to do whatever he chooses. Even if you do everything right the Axis still has the advantage, but if you do nothing then you are giving him a huge advantage. 3. In Russia I use to pull back quickly, now I never do. I try to have the Axis fight for any hex that has a MPP value. Always trying to delay the axis as best I can. I always try to hold the southern river line (The Dnipro I believe)at all costs. You can make a solid defense line in the south along the river and then up to the marshes. Too many rookies give up the southern defense too quickly in my humble view. Once the Axis can get past that line in the south there is not much geography that is going to stop them until the next river and Stalingrad. It then becomes 1942 all over again and the Germans march over the Russian Steeps.