Mad Russian
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I'm wondering if there is an interest in scenarios that would qualify as training scenarios. These are scenarios that have been playtested, with full briefings, and had been posted to The Scenario Depot before the crash.
We never made a pack of scenario like Jason has but according to reviews they were used to train new gamers. If anyone is interested in a zip pack of those I could put them together.
I would be interested in seeing what other designers have put together that would qualify as training scenarios as well.
In the meantime, I will continue to work my way through Jason's excellent small snips of the Ukraine. Army Group South never looked so good...
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I fired along the whole trench. I didn't want to upset the results by giving myself foreknowledge of the situation. My standard rule is to always prep-fire trenches when I run across them. That makes them GREAT decoys if you leave them empty in an area. Let's the attacker waste the time and ammo to clear an empty trench.Originally posted by SteveP:PC, I'm curious about your experience with using area fire in 110. I tried it several times and decided that it was a waste of time and ammo in this situation. Did you spread your platoon's fire along the whole length of the trench, or aim it all at the point where you knew the MG was lurking? If the latter, I could see how that might have close to the same effect as firing after you got the spot.
The alternative is to assume it's empty and have that HMG rip you from one end to the other.
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I have yet to beat 110 if the HMG opens fire first. Forunately, I have no trouble beating the HMG if I open fire first. I "move" down the right hand side of the road to the last house. I sneak from there to just in front of the fence.
I "advance" with everybody on the trench using area fire until the HMG is revealed. You get the trench and the HHG never even fires.
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Scenario 100 just gave me the strangest battle I've ever played in CMBB. I didn't kill the PzIII but did kill one crew member. I lost no crew members.
The flag was contested with the 2 tanks faced off against each other on both sides of the house.
Killing that one German crew member gave me a 100% Victory to 0% for a Total Victory.
Strangest battle I've ever fought.
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Just how many do you want me to recommend? HSG has about 20 that fit that discription...
If you are interested drop me a line with CMBB in the title.
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Okay tried 101 so I could compare the two. I used the same exact tactics of moving forward in platoon formation on hunt. Killed the first PzIII on turn 5 and the second PzIII on turn 10.Originally posted by JasonC:On passing along, sure, go right ahead.
The point of 102 coming after 101 is to show how tactics change with the threat. A platoon together is best against the weaker Panzers, but StuGs you have to make turn. You can kill the StuG with good scouting and distraction tactics. Or you can do it the right way. Play the exact same moves in 101, and it is unlikely to prosper.
I had the T-34's in hull down positions where only one PzIII at a time could engage them.
I always use at least a +2 CEB on vs AI scenarios. I can understand your not wanting new players to use it though. I like the way the computer handles the units better with at least a +2 CEB and all of my scenarios vs the AI are playtested with that setting. Since these scenarios are for less experienced gamers I used a +3 CEB to even the odds a bit.
Still, excellent scenarios, from what I've seen, for beginning armor experts to cut their teeth on.
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Thanks Jason. Got them. Since you were interested in the 102 battle, I tried it. Now I am not claiming to be a new player and I got this pack for those that I run across. But I tried your 102. I killed the StuG on turn 2 with the first shot from the HQ T-34, which I had just put on hunt, while the infantry was searching for the StuG. I was lucky in finding the StuG immediately and a single round kill of the StuG was almost pure luck. So, I tried it again. Same tactic. This time the StuG killed the T-34 and I had to split my remaining T-34's to kill him on turn 7.Originally posted by JasonC:To get that started, those trying them tell me and be honest - how many won the simple 102 "kill the StuG" scenario on your first try?
I played the scenario with extreme Fog of War and a +3 CEB.
Good little training scenario. This looks like it will be a valuable tool for new gamers. Do we have your permission to pass this along to those in need as we find them? You should put your name to the tuturial someplace. I would like to add your name to it before passing it along, if you agree that we can pass it along.
Once again good stuff.
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I'd like to get a set of those myself. It will be interesting seeing what I have been doing wrong with some things.
Thanks in advance.
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Don't forget that the Finns have Soviet equipment too if you need to use that in your scenarios for doing odd national mixes.
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Any recommendations for CMAK battles? </font>Originally posted by GreenAsJade:</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Panther Commander:
Look for HSG EW Tooth and Nail and HSG EW Hedgehog.
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Email me and we'll talk.Originally posted by GreenAsJade:Can someone point me to where the not-Beta HSG scenarios can be found?
I'd like to get The Sharp End in particular, and browse what other ones there are.
Thanks!
Unless I'm mistaken though Scenario Depot II is set to open it's doors sometime in the next week. Then you'll be able to get them there.
An early Christmas present would be nice.
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You can do that in CMBB, so the answer to your question would be yes, you can.
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Andreas, please don't misconstrue my comment about the websites all being Nazi claptrap. In the less than 2 years I've wandered around this website I have never seen a website with an accepted alternate point of view. It has always been just another "Nazi claptrap" website.
I have never heard of the incident described: The 560 W-SS men killed at Dachau are an invention, often used by W-SS apologists to say 'See, the US was just as bad'. But just because I've never heard of it doesn't mean it didn't happen. During my own research into the war I have seen on several occasions where US troops would have been branded war criminals if the Germans had won. As a for instance, think about the bombing campaigns the destroyed German cities with the center of the city as the aiming point.
IIRC, and I may be wrong the SS was not an all volunteer oganization during it's entire life. I think later in the war that they were "sent" men like the other services. That of course does not apply to the Dutch volunteer. Just as an overall backdrop to the "they were all not a bunch of genocidal aryan fanatics".
Today it is a bit harder to understand the SS mentality. 1930's and 40's Europe was a different place.
The SS and the German military as a whole advertised that the war AFTER 1941 was a war against communism. Not a war of Aryan purity. The part about the blonde haired, blue eyed, fair skinned German went out the window early. There simply weren't enough of those to go around. So the SS had to recruit on something else. Destroying communism was a strong draw.
The West used it on more than one occassion itself.
When I read the story of our SS Dutchman I didn't see him as being fanatic. It says he joined to feed his family. That may well have been at his mother's behest. I don't know I wasn't there. Few things in life are black and white and I know that as a teenager I have done things I wished I hadn't later.
Once again, I don't remember the SS Dutchman being sorry that he joined the SS. I don't know if that is true or not either. There are alot of things we don't know about this man. And yet he has been branded a traitor, which I think you can make a strong case for, a murderer, rapist, genocidal aryan fanatic, etc...
Military organizations of all the worlds armies use an elite status as a recruiting tool. The SS I think was no different. "If you are going to fight for Germany why not fight with THE organization that will destroy communism??!!"
That would have been a powerful draw to a teenager. I know that because it still is. The US Navy Seals, US Army Rangers, as just two examples use that very draw for recruits today and they are all volunteer elite forces.
Don't mistake my position on the SS. They should not be glorified. The war as a whole should not be glorified. But to come to a website that is about playing at war and taking a stance that anybody who even whispers the letters SS is some kind of a fanatic is crazy.
I mean how can you play the Germans in the game? Weren't war crimes done by "ordinary" Germans as well? Do you agree with the "ordinary" German unit politics? Weren't the "ordinary" German soldiers in Russia too? Didn't they shoot and kill people in situations that were later construed to be wrong? Of course the answer to that is yes.
So why the SS? I think 2 reasons.
1st the concentration camps. Rightfully so. Normal army units didn't take part in the running and staffing of concentration camps. But they sent train loads of people to fill them up.
2nd the brutal force the SS used in their combat operations. They weren't on average as skilled as their German Army counterparts so they used brute force to get the job done. They had a reputation of fighting hard.
Tell me how many war crimes are the Waffen SS accused of in the time period of 1941-1945.
How many Germans were captured at Stalingrad? How many came home? How many even lived to go to the gulags? If Germany had won the war would that have been considered a war crime.
You see war is not about black and white. You see your best friend shot down right next to and then a moment later the guy that did it throws up his hands and surrenders. Do you shoot him? There is a good chance that you will. Have you committed a war crime? IF you shot him you definately have. Will you be charged for it? If you side win the war it is far more likely that you won't be.
That is my point.
In the case of warcrimes especially might makes right. The fact that the Germans committed them is well documented. What isn't so well documented by the victors is their own situations of doing exactly the same thing but not being charged for the acts.
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Andreas. What is the "HWC section of the AHF"?
As I stated, the point is and was that not every single guy in the war that wore an SS uniform is a war criminal. The guy that started this thread didn't attack JasonC with his ideology, JasonC attacked him. Nobody was in anybody's face until JasonC went over to the attack.
The section of the website I posted here is not Nazi claptrap. There are warcriminals in all armies as the man stated. As I stated, you are only a warcriminal if you lose the war. Germany as a nation was guilty of multiple crimes against humanity. That does not mean that every single German soldier was guilty of those crimes...not everybody was a concentration camp guard, not everybody was guilty of killing a Jew. According to JasonC's and apparently Andrew H.'s stance if you ever wore the SS runes you ARE guilty by association and should therefore just go away and die someplace. That is EXACTLY the same ideology the Nazi's used. If you don't agree with us then off to the concentration camp you go. I can see no place for that ideological claptrap here on a website that is about WWII combat.
I also agree that it is totally irrelevant that the number of SS men who returned home, were, or were not, war criminals. This thread has never been about that UNTIL JasonC made it about that. The point is that if JasonC didn't like the thread instead of wishing the man to go off and die he could have just as easily informed of the facts that others did.
Unfortunately that isn't JasonC's, or several other posters on this websites, style. They would rather attack with venon people that are simply trying to enjoy the game and bring a bit of history to the conversation.
JasonC has no divine insight into WWII that I have seen. In fact he seems to think that since he has read some books he knows everything about it and now he moves over into the realm of knowing everything there is to know about being a soldier too. I have asked him long ago and am still awaiting an answer as to which military unit he has served with. I fear that I await that answer in vain. JasonC only lectures people he never answers questions on his sources.
I respect your views on the subject of WWII Germany. You have at least, a "real" base of information, and make an honest attempt to research the truth of the situation.
I would warn you that every single website that doesn't support your position can't be labeled as Nazi claptrap though. That is an easy out that several here on this site use just out of hand. It is often just thrown out there as the Biblical answer. I see nowhere in the Bible where it says, that websites that don't damn the Waffen SS, are Nazi claptrap. So my assumption is that that arguement isn't always true either.
See you are using logic to your arguement. That not all Waffen SS were the same..."Different from a late-war draftee or some surplus Luftwaffe guy sent to the W-SS from his airfield to gain the Endsieg." I have yet to ever see JasonC make that distinction. There are several others that when they the letters SS lose their ability to think clearly.
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Andrew, sorry, I don't have a website of any kind, let alone a Nazi one. Nor am I a Nazi apologist.
I am just a little tired of the fact that the only combat unit in WWII that committed warcrimes was the Waffen SS. As the article says all armies commited them. Unfortunately for the Germans the victors hold warcrimes trials not the losers.
That is what makes an SS soldier that shoots a Russian POW a warcriminal and a Russian Guards soldier that shoots an SS man just a guy that couldn't cope with all the bad things that happened in his life and to his family.
As just a single example of a long and drawn out war, what about the SS men that were shot by the 3rd Armored Division men after the death of General Rose? I can talk about that unit since I was a member of it.
And that prattle that JasonC is spouting..."F*ck Off! Or better still, they can leave. Or better still, they can die and be damned."...seems to be no better to me than the ideals that he claims to hold in such low esteem. That is how I often make my points by wishing that someone be dead for their views. That is EXACTLY the kind of crap the Nazi's put out. So if you want to point fingers better look in your camp first.
For the most part we all agree that the Waffen SS committed war crimes. Those that don't agree to that need to do some studying as you suggest.
There is a group of members, on this site, that appear to have never served in ANY armed service for any nation on this planet, and yet want to tell everyone else what they should think about being a soldier. How they should act and whether in fact they should live or die. Who died and left these people in charge of what other peopel think?
You have run Nazi's off the site. Did that change their views? I am not nor have I ever been a Nazi or a Communist unless you think being a Republican equates to that and I know some Democrats that do...
I also do not think that every single person on this planet that utters the letters SS is a card carrying Nazi. What utter lunacy. It is the very attitude of JasonC and those like him that ramrodded the Red Scare in the US during the 50's.
What are you afraid of? Someone with a different attitude than your own? JasonC seems to think that he is the sole keeper of all things WWII, that his attitude is the only one to have. That he is never wrong.
I'm sure he's right.
If you are a member of that group then you need to think what you are being so defensive of. The SS? After 60 years?! Give me a break.
I'm not a revisionist. I do historically based scenarios that are researched to a degree I would imagine few others bother with. I am not glorifying any organization when I do a scenario with the SS in it. It is an examination of the actions on the field of battle.
There was no political statement being made by the original poster UNTIL JasonC made it into one. To take another line of thinking, if you didn't like the thread why didn't you stay out of it? Instead of the poster having to go off and die, why didn't YOU just go on to a thread that wasn't offensive to you? Why did you feel obligated to jump on a guy that was sharing his own personal thoughts? What made it so impelling that he be pounded into the mud for his attempts to share what he thought was an innocent meeting with a veteran?
What?
No, that would have been too simple and not near sensational enough!
Give me a break... :mad:
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And yet another view:
"...why is this never brought up, but the Waffen-SS 'massacres' time and time again? It must be remembered that, of the 910.000 men who served in the Waffen-SS, 313.749 did never return home. Every Army contained individuals who perpetrated war crimes. Does the massacre of 560 Waffen-SS soldiers from Wiking and Nord at SS-Übungsplatz Dachau by American soldiers have to be mentioned every time the US Army is brought up? The answer is quite obviously no, as those men were not representative for the whole American Army. That same argument goes for the Waffen-SS. Those who are intoxicated by the Zeitgeist and acting with malice will certainly try to associate the entire Waffen-SS with every war crime committed, even and especially the vague incidents at Baugnez. But by those same standards, the whole US Army was guilty of My Lai, and should also be condemned as a criminal organization. This of course, is nonsense, as much as it was nonsense to call the Waffen-SS a 'criminal organisation'..."
That was just a bit of the article. You can read the rest for yourselves...I am making the assumtion here that you can read.
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It certainly must have been bad for them to be banned. JasonC cusses people out, tells them to leave the forum like he owns it, tells them to go somewhere and die and he gets to stay.Originally posted by Sergei:I'm just saying that there actually is at least one Nazi frequenting this forum and several others have been banned before.
Yes, these people that were banned must have been really something to see... :eek:
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Do you just want maps or would complete playtested scenarios be of interest to you as well?Originally posted by ErikinWest:I was recently inspired after playing some Brothers in Arms, to play some CM AK. I was wondering if anyone would mind sparing
or showing me where I can find some maps of my desired preference. Thanks,
Erik
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A round that hits the armour plate that doesn't have enough energy to go all the way through.Originally posted by Deathsai:What is "internal armor flaking" if not cumulative armor damage?
If you play pool(some call it billiards) you can see the same thing happen. When you strike a group of balls the energy from the moving ball strikes the group and the ball on the back of the group flies off in another direction while the initial ball stops.
The energy was transfered to the other ball through the pile. That is roughly what happens to armour that is hit with enough force. The recent term for this is spalling.
Normally the armour doesn't break off in a single piece but many small ones. Like shattering a glass with a hammer blow. Those small pieces then fly around the inside of the AFV causing crew and equipment casuslties.
NATO's HEP and HESH rounds were initially made for this effect. They weren't designed to penetrate the vehicle, they were designed to have the vehicles armour break up on the inside.
Hope this helps.
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SOMEBODY has already started on it.Originally posted by juan_gigante:Next they'll be asking for all of Kursk.
Others are waiting to see it show up.
You'll see... :eek:
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Both of the round 4 scenarios from the King of the Hill tournament would fit that bill.
They have just been released at The Proving Grounds.
http://the-proving-grounds.com
Look for HSG EW Tooth and Nail and HSG EW Hedgehog.
Then settle in for some brutal close in combined arms actions. Be warned though these are not your normal fare. As the EW stands for End of the War these fights have unusual circumstances and a bit different OOB's. You may actually have to use good tactics to win... :eek:
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Ant your photo is of an MTLB. It is the base vehicle for an entire family of support AFV's including SPA vehicles for the ex-Warsaw Pact.
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I see you have actually been a TPG member since 9 June.Originally posted by aka_tom_w:OK
Thanks for all the advice and suggestions
See you at the proving-grounds.com
-tom w
At TPG my handle is the Mad Russian. Tried to use the same handle everywhere but they wouldn't all go through.
Should change them out to a single one at some point...
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Buq-Buq that is a pretty accurate comparison of the two scenarios. Mine was the HSG Singling vs AI. I did use Tank vs Tank as my main source. That proved to be a bit more semi-historical than I normally strive for but sometimes you don't get exactly what you are looking for.
The reason I answered you here is to talk about the map. The distances in the book seemed suspect to me so I used mapquest to check the distances and then correct those with the terrain features shown. A bit of triangulation from then to now.
Thanks for the great comments on the two scenarios. I had just released my scenario when Bertrand Dossmann, the designer of the other scenario, told me of his scenario. We decided that it would be interesting to release them both and to let other people see the different points of view of the same battle. Just as you pointed out.
Thanks again for your kind words.
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