BulletRat

Unless you're a diehard fan of CM (grognard?) and a mere mortal gamer like me you'll have trouble keeping track of when certain tanks were introduced into each army - so I made up a basic list. American Armour --------------- M4 Sherman M4(105) Sherman M4A1 Sherman M4A3 Sherman M4A3(75)W Sherman M5A1 Stuart M7 Priest M7B1 Priest M8 Howitzer Motor Carriage M10 Tank Destroyer M4A1(76)W Sherman (In: July '44) M4A3(76)W Sherman (In: July '44) M4A3E2 Sherman Jumbo (In: August '44) M18 Hellcat (In: August '44) M4A3(105) HVSS Sherman (In: October '44) M4A3E2(76) Sherman Jumbo (In: October '44) M4A3E2(76)W HVSS Sherman Jumbo (In: October '44) M36 Jackson (In: October '44) M4 Sherman Crocodile (In: November '44) M24 Chaffee (In: December '44) M36B1 Jackson (In: December '44) M4A3(76)W HVSS Easy-Eight Sherman (In: January '45) M4A1(76)W+ Sherman (In: January '45) M4A3(75)W+ Sherman (In: January '45) M4A3(76)W+ Sherman (In: January '45) M4A3(76)W+ HVSS Easy-Eight Sherman (In: January '45) M26 Pershing (In: February '45) T26E4 Super Pershing (In: March '45) British Armour -------------- Stuart V Sherman II Sherman IIC Firefly Sherman III Sherman V Sherman VC Firefly Centaur IV (Out: July '44) Cromwell IV Cromwell VI Cromwell VII Cromwell VIII Churchill VI Churchill VII Churchill VIII Churchill Crocodile Wolverine Sexton Churchill AVRE Challenger (In: August '44) Archer (In: October '44) Sherman IIA (In: November '44) Achilles (In: January '45) Comet (In: March '45) Canadian Armour --------------- Stuart V Sherman III Sherman V Sherman VC Firefly Churchill Crocodile Sexton Badger (In: January '45) Polish Armour ------------- Sherman V Sherman VC Firefly Cromwell IV Cromwell VI Cromwell VII Cromwell VIII Sexton French Armour ------------- M4 Sherman M4A1 Sherman M4A2 Sherman M4A3(75)W Sherman M5A1 Stuart M7 Priest M8 Howitzer Motor Carriage M10 Tank Destroyer M4A3(76)W Sherman (In: July '44) M4A3(105) HVSS Sherman (In: October '44) Axis Armour ----------- H-39 Hotchkiss (Out: September '44) Lynx (Pz IIL) Wespe Marder II Hummel Panzer IVG Panzer IVH Jagdpanzer IV Jagdpanzer IV (w/skirt) Nashorn StuH42 Assault Howitzer StuH42 Assault Howitzer (late) Sturmgeschutz IIIG Sturmgeschutz IIIG (late) Sturmgeschutz IV Tiger (Pz VIE) Tiger (Pz VIE late) Panther (Pz VA) Panther (Pz VG) Jagdpanther (JPz V) Marder III Wirbelwind (In: July '44) Panzer IVJ (In: July '44) King Tiger (Pz VIB / Porsche) (In: July '44) (Out: September '44) King Tiger (Pz VIB) (In: July '44) Hetzer (JgPz 38t) (In: July '44) Panzer IV/70 (V) (In: August '44) Panther (Pz VG Late) (In: November '44) Ostwind (In: December '44) Jagdtiger (JPz VI) (In: December '44) Flammpanzer 38(t) Hetzer (In: December '44) Enjoy! [ October 31, 2002, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: BulletRat ]

Maybe you guys are forgetting one small thing? Chance. Just because a mathematical equation says something should happen doesn't mean that it will happen. **edit** Afterthought: If you wanted to test simple AI vs human wouldn't it be easier to have T-34s take on T-34s, or Stugs take on Stugs etc... (Ok so maybe the game doesn't allow you to do that but I guess it's an idea). [ October 30, 2002, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: BulletRat ]

Sweet thx.

*bump* anyone?

Yeah. The stuart got lucky - or as I like to put it: sh*t happens.

My point exactly. I'm an avid 3D gamer myself - and both an RTS and WWII fan, so CM suits me down to a T. I was simply inferring that widening the user base could well invite disaster in terms of player relations and quality.

Getting back to the root subject, I think that improving the graphics with the intention of making it a more attractive product to a wider audience has both its benefits and drawbacks. On the side of benefits would of course mean more sales for Battlefront and a wider range of people to play. Drawbacks would include a lesser quality of players and the probable inclusion of cheats. Just about any game that has been successful in a big war has had cheats/hacks progammed for it - look at the Half-Life series* , Valve has had to write its own anti-cheat programs into the game just to keep the rife amount of cheats under control. *I know some may say Half-Life is a FPS and Battlefronts games are Tactical/RTS but other big-name RTS' have had cheating rife in the user base (Starcraft anyone?), Total Annihilation was quite an excellent RTS with a moderately small sized user base and cheats were readily available for that. BTW I was kidding about Starcraft, it's a wanna-be cartoon RTS as far as I'm concerned.

Forgive me if its been asked before (yes I did a search) but is there an IRC channel for Battlefront games? I imagine it would be much easier to find opponents in real-time rather than the opponent-finding forums. (BTW I have a CMBO game setup right NOW on 203.45.9.200 )