Pack Kuma

Hey, I just happened to notice that the download is coming from: http://mirror.internode.on.net/games/FIRSTPERSONSHOOTERS/cmbb/mods/ Funny, I just rented Kelly's Heroes tonight...that scene with the Tiger is sort of a first person shooter version of CMBO.

Mike the Wino, No, I'm not THAT Kuma. This smarter-than-your-average-bear would never walk away in the middle of a tourney. Anyone ever read John Keegan's opinion about Clausewitz?

Seanachai, I can feel the good in you, father. And I will not turn.

I must say that the CMBB tac AI is not all that bad on D. I just played a QB against the computer, me Axis, mostly tank battle, and the dang thing whupped me good, and here I was all kitted out with vet Kingies and crack Panties (that doesn't sound too good, does it?), some PzG's, halftracks. Came over the big hill overlooking the village, and there were some JS2's and such that my Tiggers had problems with, but the cool thing was that the Russky SU's kept pulling shoot and scoot's on me. They knocked out a panther or two that way. I was beaten up real bad, but it was fun, felt like playing a human.

Snarker, you appear to have something caught in your teeth.

eeeeh, Boku wa "Member" des!

as they say about what's irksome in horses, "it's not the posting, it's de-ride." I've dedicated a kuma-haiku (syllables all wrong) to this thread: Turunipu o irimasuka? Wakarimasen, wakarimasen Pengu wa dare mo wakaranai Yuki wa ki ni imasu

Thread reminds me of having a loose belt and always having to pull your pants up.

Join the Brown Bear Thread for a more intellectual and welcoming alternative (shameless plug).

This version is also *so much better* than the previous CMBO, right from the getgo. You don't need to download 30k mods in order to get it looking good. Welcome!

sorry for the double post.

Don't these people read the rules? Don't they read the posts here? Why in the world would we CARE if anyone else gets it or not? Joe My point exactly. Would you like some whiskey with your leather, lodgemaster?

"Don't these people read the rules? Don't they read the posts here? Why in the world would we CARE if anyone else gets it or not? Joe" my point exactly would you like some whiskey with your leather, lodgemaster?

"Insults or rude sayings? Hmmm? Have I insulted anyone?" asked Brown Bear, politely. Well (ahem) I am in fact large, bearded, and fond of flannel, but my kind wore these duds long before they were coopted by certain sociological subgroups with a preference (ahem...growl) for such. And ah ain't no freshman! (I'm 30 years old, I hope not at this point!)

"Thank you! I finally know who Peng is! All the planets must be in alignment today," said Brown Bear. Anyway, I'd like for this to be the "non-insult thread," a place where people can go a wee bit beyond that type of thing (see above post). That's all. If some folks like to do that sort of thing, well, that's up to them.

Thanks for the name, I'd forgotten it was JS. I didn't know he said it twice! IAC, it's really not intended to be an anti-Peng thread, despite my railings at the beginning. In fact I'd like to get away from the Peng/anti-Peng thing altogether and make this something new.

Captain, thanks for the link, funny site that is also soooo sweet that I flipped out for no reason at all. Also, point well taken. Long post, but I poured my heart out into this one: Okay, back to business. To give us some inspiration, above I've posted our thread totem, mascot, and master of ceremonies, the faux-Jungian archetype of the Guru Brown Bear, island of serenity, contemplation, self-knowledge, and intellectual discussion in the midst of the explosive battles of the wonderful simulation that Battlefront has given us. He also adorns my own label of homemade molasses peanut butter. My vision for this thread is that we can learn some things about each other while discussing this game...not simple tips and tricks but tactics, military science--all as applied to CMBB, military history, and not least of all, use this as a challenge thread. I guess my notion is that this can be a kind of forest coffeehouse where we can pause our game and sit under the tree for a minute with Brown Bear while the shells sit frozen in midflight around us. Let me break the ice a little and say why I want to do this, and give you a little of my bio (which is what I'm hoping more people on here will do in order to make this a *real community,* like those small-town library wargaming clubs, rather than just an ongoing bar brawl. I'm a graduate student in anthropology at Yale University studying the US prison system. I've got a deep an abiding interest in all things World War II, but particularly the eastern front. My paternal grandfather was a banker who became a Sturmfuhrer in the Nord division of the Waffen-SS; he trained at Wildflecken and was sent to the Russian front in 1942, where he probably died; we don't know for sure and that's really all we know about him. So that makes this "game" kind of sacred for me in a way that other wargames are not, like I can somehow know him better by using this game as a vehicle for my imagination about what it must have been like. It's like enacting my own personal mythology. I don't want to say it's offensive to treat this stuff lightly, with humor and such, but sometimes when I see a soldier get killed on the screen by whatever, I think about my grandfather's fate. I don't know that much about where division Nord went. Did he wind up stuffing his entrails back into his abdomen on some open steppe after being hit by grenate shrapnel? Was he cooked alive by molten metal inside his panzer when it was hit by an anti-tank round? Is it instead possible he might have survived the war? Sometimes I try to think like he might have thought when I order my little pixel platoon across the field of battle. Silly, but important for me to do. Anyway, that's the kind of thought/discussion/biography I was hoping to prompt with this thread. What do you think about when playing CM? Why are you interested in it? Would you like to reenact, on computer, a certain battle with me so we can try to uncover just a *little* of what it was like to be there, rather than just play a bloated "game" of capture the flag?

Actually this is the dreaded hippie Brown Bear, standing in the way of a German panzer company, thinking unthinkable thoughts and just having smoked his Hyperdrox.

BTW, Kuma means Bear (points for language). Since I'm not a Polar Bear or God Forbid A Pooh Bear, or even a Grizzled Grognard Bear, I must be a brown bear, so says the Mrs. I die.

Ah well. Win some, lose some. I'm going to take my Hyperdrox now and get into bed with turnips and Peng, with visions of hijacked turnips carried by stupid Monty Python Swallows (HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH) dancing in my Hyperdroxia.

What I'm saying isn't so much about rudeness. It's that the Peng thread is unintelligible to those not in the club. Any "traveling men" here? If so you get the point. Like bumbling into a lodge for the first time when everyone's got their aprons on. That's why I'm suggesting an alternative. It's like if I had once told a joke three years ago to my friends, say about something named "Hyperdrox." Every time you log onto the forum you see that the biggest thread is about some variation of "Hyperdrox," however, you were not in on the original joke, so you don't understand when people say, "Are you sure you're taking your Hyperdrox?" or "I'm throwing down the Hyperdrox gauntlet." You want to be a part of this thread since it seems that's where it's happenin', but if you ask someone what Hypodrox is, they say, "here, have a tasty turnip," or "don't ask, don't tell." So over time "Hypodrox" becomes something you avoid, an eyesore, like "oh, there's the newest incarnation of that incomprehensible in-club thread...AGAIN." That what I mean by being opaque and exclusive. Note I'm not trying to flame anyone or start a war, it's just that in-jokes ultimately foster resent from those denied access. It would be fine if the Peng thread wasn't so incomprehensible to those who aren't in on Code Purple. As it is I think it is possibly annoying to some--like a clan. Again, I'm not trying to flame anyone, it's just that I've been lurking this board for several years and have noticed this trend, and I think it may be subtly affecting the CM community in a negative way. Sorry for the long post...

For me the Peng Thread is clubby. That's fine, this whole forum is clubby (it a wargaming niche sort of way), but I think that it would be best to have a kind of open club for newcomers; toq quote Cheers, "where everybody knows your name...and they're always glad you came." If the Peng thread is the one and only exception, I think that it needs to be a little less opaque for new folks. I've been lurking around here for years and *still* haven't figured it out. I don't think that one small group should have the sole right to be exceptional. (Sorry if the tone of this sounds like I'm angry, I'm not).

Sorry, but that was horriblis.

I don't intend for this to be "anti-Peng" so much as "Peng Alternative." I've no objection to the clubby atmosphere, but would like to see a less intimidating, ongoing thread for those who don't know where to start, but would like to develop that same sense of camraderie. Everything has its jargon and lore, and I guess Peng is part of the body of CM culture, but it is a bit intimidating, I think, for newcomers. So this isn't intended to be strictly an opponent finder, but rather a beginner thread and "welcome mat." Oh, and Hamster references *are* allowed. (Got six...wait no five at home).