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Cambronne

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  1. well,in my campaign those to enjoy air supremacy are the Germans.Any problem with that? :) I'm the designer,I decide the conditions,don't I? Hmm,maybe I'm gonna give them some American allies,former members of the Klan that changed sides in the middle of the war. Personally I find the historical campaigns a little boring,since they seem somehow...familiar, even before playing them.

  2. Yeah,the inaccurate claims made by the pilots are notorious.Heh, I read somewere(don't remember where now) they even pretended to sink a carrier when the ship mentioned wasn't even hit,and it wasn't even a carrier but a cruiser.If that kind of error was possible, the correct estimation of an air strike against much smaller targets as tanks could seldom be done.

    But it was an entire another matter when the story was narrated by the ground troops who called the air strike,they could see better the impact and afterward,resuming advance,encountered no opposition from the burning skeletons of what previously was holding them back.This kind of testimony from the ground is much reliable than the one from the sky,in my opinion.

  3. Unless I'm confused and we are talking about two different things, what is needed is evidence that air support was being directed by local commanders on the ground on the spot and in a timely manner. Not "OMG SO MUCH BLOOD!!!11" (sorry couldn't help it). I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that aircraft attacked ground forces.

    if previous examples of CAS called by battalion or company commanders and executed almost by the book don't work...other examples won't work either since you don't believe they existed.If you need combat reports from the Russian 1st Tank Corps about losing 6 T34s in the morning of 22 February in the village of Petschanka exclusively due to Stuka attacks to match with the reports of SS Der Fuhrer saying exactly the same thing,you probably won't find any,since most likely no Russian tank commander(either dead or POW) could write such a report.And since most of us (I believe) track the informations more from historical works written by professionals and less from direct study of official archive papers I tend to believe what is written there as long as I don't find something contradictory and as long as there are other accounts about similar events.

  4. First I was not talking about evidence from German side nor Soviet side. It is about a third party work,based not only on German sources.Second,aside whether you like Irving or not,it doesn,t change the mentioned diary.Third,speaking about both sides evidence,do you think you need more German evidence that the air raids at Bir Hacheim (ok not really a "pure" CAS as mentioned) really existed and they practically brought victory?! And last,there are a lot more examples of effective close air support but since you wouldn,t believe anyway,I let you find them by yourself(ves).

  5. I'm also going to need to see evidence from both sides, since friendly claims for enemy casualties are notoriously useless.

    From the diary of a British soldier subject to CAS called by Rommel at Bir Hacheim 7-10 June : "Only God can help!All of my friends look like madman.All of us keep looking involuntarily to the sky.I'd never had believed that air raids COULD KILL SO MANY MEN.The stink of corpses is unbearable.

  6. There is evidence of effective CAS and there is evidence of ineffective CAS.Yes indeed,there are examples in France 40 and Africa where dive bombers called for CAS did more psychological than material damage.But I recall,for instance, a book about Kharkov 43 where Stukas literally "cleared" the ground before SS regiments more than once(for example on 22 february the recon battalion of SS Der Fuhrer encountered a reinforced Russian position at the village of Petschanka with several T34 and elements of a Guards Div. Stukas ,flying above, were called by radio and shortly afterward all Russian tanks were destroyed and the battalion passed by without casualities.The same day a platoon of halftracks run into a few T34s near Sinelnikovo;in a matter of moments Stukas arrived and destroyed the tanks allowing the platoon to continue the advance).

  7. Yes, the same open force selection philosophy will remain a feature for every CMx2 game.

    No, not all combos are really all that politically correct. In CM:SF I don't think many would find comfort in having US Army and Uncon IEDs going up against US Marines backed up by Uncon suicide VIEDs. But imposing our own vision of political correctness would be even worse.

    Steve

    I like you made the game so versatile,it is a big help for most imaginative people.

  8. Right, I remember Steve saying they never found any evidence of smoke grenades being used for cover in WWII. They were too ineffective at it. They were only used for ID purposes.

    In fact I remembered I saw an old archive movie with German pioneers assaulting in the open.They had something we may consider a "smoke grenade",in fact a smoking stick with a wisp at one end,soaked into some kind of flammable material.Every man in the platoon had such a grenade and the sequence of actions went like this:throw it a couple of meters,rush forward,grab the stick again,throw it again and run forward again. And from what I've seen,those smoking sticks used simultaneously by the whole platoon deployed in line provided a decent cover.

  9. Really? So you think for example, that saying Obama is wrong about health care and saying that the US shouldn't have a black president are two equally legitimate political views and should both be tolerated on a public forum?

    there is a difference about the subject,but as about freedom of speech they should be treated as equal. Someone can say he wants a gibbon as president of US,should he be banned? No,just that everyone else would treat him as half-nutty weak minded guy.

    Oh,and...yes better back to wargaming!

  10. Mars42,

    The goose stepping variety, preferably in Poland. What else would a neo-Nazi want?

    Steiner14, you'd be wise to not post completely off-topic, politically inflammatory remarks like that again (check the Forum rules). I tolerate a wide range of points of view here on this Forum, but I don't think you should try to find the upper limit on what I'll allow. Consider that your final warning.

    Steve

    come on,the guy expressed his thoughts.He thinks the Bundeswehr is a mercenary army.So what,is this kind of thought forbidden by any law? He thinks USA's nickname is USrael.OK so what?big deal,nothing to write home about ! He may wery well be a nazi.So what? I think you should either allow all political views to be expressed or interdict all political topics.You cannot be biased from this point of view. I saw a British TV show where the guest had the sicke and the hammer on a red t-shirt(and it wasn't a political show) and there was no problem(and shouldn't have been). C'mon BF,let them all speak or make them all shut up.

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