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Thanks for the insight, so then playing a set scenario with historiacl objectives is a more realistic interpretation than a normal qb.Also if I understand what your saying a QB with a much longer time limit or no time limit at all and played on the largest map possible so the flanks are not map edges and not safe would slow this game down to a more realistic pace. Give me your idea settings that would cause the most realistic battle time frame.

I've heard several times from various people the opinion that too much happens in a typical 30 min QB in CMBO.I've heard that what happens in the 30 min QB might really happen over the course of 1-3 hrs or more.I don't understand this premise.Can someone please go into greater detail and explain exactly how this can be?

what?

looking for the one with the large city map, does anyone know the name of this scenario?

Now that I got myself thinking about SL, I remember a rule about interrogating prisoners.Would'nt it be cool if we could interrogate prisoners in CMBB like SL? Here would be my rules for it.Any HQ unit that is with in 2m of any captured unit at the begining of a turn may interrogate that prisoner for that 1 min turn.The interrogate order would be on the list with all the other commands.Choose interrogate and that hq unit can do nothing for the entire 1 min turn.When the hq unit chooses to interrogate it will be out of command of all units within range and have no positive effects on them.If the hq unit is fired upon or comes into los of any enemy unit the interrogation is deemed unsucessful.At the begining of the next turn if the Hq unit did not have any contact at all with the enemy it may now get the interrogation results.Results are either unsucessful or provide a specific piece of information about the enemy force.If unsuccesful you may attempt again with no garantee of any results.Once a captured unit provides a positive result it can no longer be interrogated.The positive results could be varied and many.For instance if it was a captured tank crew the positive results could be varied as follows:5 total vehicles, 6 medium tanks, or even more specific like 2 tiger tanks in rear on large hill to the north.If it was a captured gun crew,2 57mm at guns, 1 bofors or 5 total guns or zero guns and so on.the possibilities are endless. Let me know what you think?Is this even realistic or practical from a 30 min battle.Maybe it would apply more to operations.

Does anyone know if you will be able to mine bldg or boobytrap them as in Squad Leader for CMBB? Also will we be able to put small at guns in bldg ?

Im sure you will all be happy to know that this will be my final comment about this thread.First of all this thread has gone far beyond my intentions.I was hoping to create a fun little debate of tcip vs pbem.My intention was not to insult anyone who plays by pbem.If I insulted anyone in this thread about how they play or if they pbem or not than I apologize.

hey wwb i never claimed that one group was superior,I said I play all the big dogs at T-house.Its my opinion that alot of the best players play there,I cant prove that, but all the guys in this post flapping there gums that im wrong about that can prove me wrong by playing there and racking up the victories.Now Im willing tp play anyone of you guys by pbem and ill post the results as well.Now why dont one of you guys join the t-house ladder and kick some but.

ok deadmash if you read what i said it was that the top tcipers would wipe the battlefeild of the best pbemers under a tcip format with a time limit. You guys just dont get that and your putting words in my mouth.Ive never claimed to wipe the battlefeild with anybody.Im average to above averagr player in my opinion. That being said ill be happy to play you as well. I just mailed you.

ok bruce your on ,I just emailed you

Who am i Fionn? Someone who enjoys this game very much whether it be pbem or tcip.I stand by my initial point.The TCIP game with a time limit is a harder task than a pbem without one.I really dont care what or how people play as long as there having fun. And Mr. Fionn I play all the big boys at T-HOUSE. I dont run from them like you did with Skelley.When I see your name at the top of the list with the big dogs than youll earn my respect.

hey seanachai thank you for your valued opinion,you have added so much to this topic that I really look forward with great anticipation to all your future comments. your one of those guys who puts up a topic and gets 0 responses arent you?

thats correct, my opinion only applies to both players in a meeting engagement and the attacker in a attck/def game

Yes it does because your subtracting the ability of one to think quickly and faster from the equation.Your discounting the fact the speed is a skill.I guess the discussion is coming down to whether you believe that speed in this game is a skill.I happen to beleive it is.If you dont thats fine.

Athkatla , I understand your point, I play it for fun too,Its the most fun I can have without my wife if you know what I mean.But know one can argue that a 2000 qb with a 3 min timer isnt a harder challenge and more realistic than with no time lim at all.

thanks for all your valued opinons, im not trying to insult anybody, its just my opinion that the best tcip players will beat the best pbemers 8 out of 10 times in any format. I knew this would stir the pot!

Hey Juju its real simple you have 5 min or all day to get 10 jobs done around the house, whata you gonna choose?Your gonna choose all day so you can take your time, get it right,stop and have a beer, relax a little.Its just harder and if you cant understand that I dont know how else to explain it to you.Its like the clock rule in chess, why do you think they use that?It determines how long it takes you to make your move,if it takes someone longer they deduct points.Its a measure of ones apptitude.

If you can make skillfull snap tactical choices quicker than your opponent than you are more adept at the game.Thankyou for bolstering my postion.

Oh Frunze you didnt pick who you thoght the better players were.It is a poll.

I think I hurt your feelings, Im sorry but your missing the point,Im saying that while I enjoy a good pbem game just like alot of other people, its the minor leagues compared to tcip play.Pbem is like college football and tcip is like the NFL.But who says you cant enjoy a good college football game.

Ive played alot of games of CMBO since it came out, I'd say about 250.Thats just against humans.Of those 250 about 90% are tcip?others were pbem.Im not claiming to be an elite player but my point is that a highly skilled TCIP guy will wipe up the battlefeild with an opponenet who just pbems it all the time.Im not knocking pbem games at all, there fun, but there is no pressure like a tcip game with a time limit, and which leads me to my other point that tcip games are by there very nature more realistic especially when you decrease the time limit.Tcip guys dont have the luxury of whipping out there protractor and compass to figure out there next move.So my final point is that tcipers are better players than pbemers.You take a guy like Swamp,Skelley, Ghost358 from T-house and there gonna crush guys like Fionn in a tcip game. Any of your thoughts would be appreciated.

I dont even have the game yet and there is apatch already?

thanks

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