Jon_S

Stirring the pot again, huh Simon? Where's my trout ... ? Piscatorially yours Jon {too busy and distracted to post a 10,000 word essay referencing things that predate the bible} ------------------ Ubique

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>...If I recall correctly, British glider pilots formed an infantry unit upon landing...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ... aka the Glider Pilot Regiment. In the UK AB Divs they formed approx the equivalent of two inf bns. There were a LOT of gliders in a full div air assault: all those for the AL Bde, plus all the heavy units (AT, Arty, Mech Recon, Med, etc) Seriously - what else would you have these guys do? Fly home? They just crash landed their plane! So, like everyone else in a AB Div, they're stuck until the ground forces catch up. Regards Jon [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 07-10-2000).]

Actually, crater analysis is a real, and worthwhile, battlefield activity for FOs. Looking at the size and orientation gives you an idea about what is firing, and from where. Looking at the quantity gives you an idea of their capability.

{tries to put on tolerance hat} At the end of a game you can click on enemy units and see what they have left. What this doesn't tell you is what they began with. For most units (inf, AFV) this doesn't matter since it really isn't that variable. However, for FOs it is, and John's point is that it would be nice to know what they started with. For a supposed genius, you're pretty friggin' stoopid. What's your definition of genius anyway - an IQ of 47? [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-21-2000).]

Maxipad - you dumb redneck! He's talking about AFTER the battle.

Seriously Manieri - why should anyone bother? Wait 24 hours and have a look in your mailbox. Lo, there will be your answer.

My guess is shrink wrapped jelly. That way you get CM, and a tasty treat too. More great value for money from the great guys at BTS. ------------------ Ubique

Um, my 1st post was mostly a joke. Note to self: self, work on humour. Bits of it were serious though. Instead of just giving you badly remembered "sound-bites" of info, check out the following sites for info on the M1, and its ammo: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/120.htm http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/du.htm http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m1.htm Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-16-2000).]

Post-war searching of the Nazi archives discovered proof that Hollow Charge rounds became dizzy and dis-oriented if spun too fast. The Germans were working on a solution to this problem, but luckily had only come up with the Panzerfaust and the Panzerschreck before the war ended. After the war the americans used press-ganged german scientists to work on this problem. After a few false starts involving Kitchen Sinks and the Mars Polar Lander, they eventually developed the 120mm smoothbore. Interestingly, the UK was only able to grab some low grade Nazi scientists. These 2nd-rate boffins were only able to come up with the Mini and the Millenium Dome. This is why the Challenger II still uses a rifled 120mm main gun. Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-15-2000).]

Yup, approx 150 FF soldiers went in early in the morning (not in the first wave though) at Sword Beach. They belonged to the 10th Inter Allied Commando, organised into two 64 man Troops, and a mortar platoon with six 3" mortars. They were part of the 1st SS Brigade under Lord Lovat. (SS = Special Service in this instance ...) Regards Jon {edit1} ack, after reading this, I'm not sure on some of the details. I'll check later today and change the bits that need it. {edit2} editted for ballsed up content ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-14-2000).] [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-15-2000).]

2nd SS (aka Das Reich), 2nd Panzer, and Panzer Lehr (aka 130th Panzer Div) are all different. All three fought at Normandy though. Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique

I think this could be put in the same basket as vehicle breakdowns. That is, during the course of a single scenario a radio/vehicle is unlikely to have a breakdown/lose contact. Such things would likely have happened before battle was joined - ie before the scenario began. This is demonstrated in, um, Reisburg where the scenario notes mention that one Sherman is missing from the platoon because it broke down that morning. Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique

RE: Andreas' tea drinking story... In one of the gliders on teh way to Arnhem some Brit paras started brewing up in the back. The co-pilot was a little nervous about the operation, the flak, and then completley lost it when he looked in the back and saw the chaps using a petrol cooker on top of a stack of ammo. The pilot took a more relaxed veiw, and told him to make sure they got a cup too. Sort of sums up the British phlegmatic approach to warfare for me. From the book A Bridge Too Far. Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-07-2000).]

OBG did you read the Hollywood thread? And if you did, did all the big words make sense to you? Reading your post above ... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>From the film, "A Bridge Too Far" ... That is where I get most of my setiment towards the lack of priorities of British Command<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ... it would appear not. The whole thrust of the Hollywood thread was that films distory history for dramatic effect or in the interests of the 'story'. Cripes, you didn't even have the decency to watch two films - let alone read any books - before forming a bigotted opinion! Still grumpy (despite Bobbaros excellent post) Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-07-2000).]

OBG, If I wasn't such a nice chap, I'd call you something that rhymes with the word "wanker". Rhymes really well too ... Grumpily Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited for family content by Jon_S (edited 06-07-2000).] [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 06-07-2000).]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie63: ... A true WP round contains the following components, outer hull, (steel casing) inner shell (75% of the interior area of the projectile) which is White Phosphorous and the central core (25%) of the contents which is High Exlposive HE to disperse the WP...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That would be this one then ... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Burster-type white phosphorus. White phosphorus projectiles are available for 105-mm and 155-mm howitzers. They are bursting-tube type projectiles that can be fired with point-detonating (PD) or MTSQ fuzes. The projectile has an incendiary-producing effect and is ballistically similar to the HE projectile. Normally, shell WP is employed for its incendiary effect. The projectile also can be used for screening, spotting, and signaling purposes.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Charlie63: I recon some one may be tyrying to say I don't know what I am talking about? ... Their mission is NOT one of smoke generation ... If I call for smoke and you send WP and I survive I see a fragging in your future! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> From RNZA Fire Discipline: "... strictly in accordance with the intentions of the originator." But if you send a fire mission without specifying exactly what you want, well ... From the FAS site listed above... <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>M825 white phosphorus: The M825 WP projectile is an FA-delivered 155-mm base-ejection projectile designed to produce a smoke screen on the ground for a duration of 5 to 15 minutes. It consists of two major components--the projectile carrier and the payload. The projectile carrier delivers the payload to the target. The payload consists of 116 WP-saturated felt wedges. The smoke screen is produced when a predetermined fuze action causes ejection of the payload from the projectile. After ejection, the WP-saturated felt wedges in the payload fall to the ground in an elliptical pattern. Each wedge then becomes a point or source of smoke. The M825 is ballistically similar to the M483A1 (DPICM) family of projectiles.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique

Hi guys, once again, my favourite, all-purpose website comes to the party: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/smoke.htm This site talks about smoke as both a screening tool, and an incidary device - but not t=in the same shell. The casualties Germanboy refers to are caused by the carrier shell of base-eject rounds. These rounds fly on their parabola over the intended target, and at the right moment the base falls off and the payload is ejected onto the right spot. The carrier round can continue for quite some distance, especially in the case of Illum rounds which have a burst height of around 1000m. IMHO, WP was introduced as a smoke round. It build thick, persistent smoke screens very quickly. However, soldiers being what they are, it didn't take long before it was being used for other tasks - as described by Bullethead, ARCHANGEL, et al. Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rich12545: I don't understand why the entire ww2 could not be included. Steel Panthers did it. So did TOAW on a larger scale. We're talking about adding countries, terrain, weapons, etc. ... Then I'll see who comes out with mods for the rest of the war. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ahh, where to begin? Tell us Mr Head, when would you like to be playing CM:The_Whole_Frigging_Shooting_Match ? Early next month? Because you wouldn't be. You might get it in, oh, 5-6 years. Assuming Steve and Charles (prostates self to the NE) hadn't died of starvation in the meantime. Its taken about 4 years to get to where it is now, letting alone adding every damn thing that had tracks, wheels, or feet on the other 3 fronts, during the other 5 years. The people coming out with the mods will be S&C - one major mod about every 12 months for the next five years or so. Is that enough for you? Or would you like more - for example, to pay nothing for these mods? Well - you get what you pay for. And you don't want to pay for much. So you can [removed] grumpily Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by Jon_S out of inter-country shame (edited 05-31-2000).] [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 05-31-2000).]

We few, we lucky few ... nah, thanks anyway Steve, but I'll just soldier on with my super-secret new username ... Jon -------------------------------------- %&@ the artiste formerly known as JonS [This message has been edited by Jon_S (edited 05-30-2000).]

That seemed to work (28 SPAMs to follow ...) Jon ------------------ Ubique

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