SgtMuhammed
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Just to clear up Midway.
It was the Torpedo planes with some fighters that found the Japanese first. Their attack achieved no hits but it distracted the Japanese AAA and, more importantly, brought their fighter cover down to the deck. When the dive bombers appeared the sky was cleared of Zeros and the decks of the Japanese carriers were full of bombers and torpedo planes preparing to attack the just spotted American fleet.
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Don't forget that everyone was also the captain of their local sports team (which of course won state) as well as pulling in nearly 50k a year. Honestly I just joined for the excitement.every GI I met told me he had had long hair (down to his ass, more or less ) before he joined the army and was the mean, crazy and totally rebellious public enemy No. 1 in the ****kicker settlement he was born in.
I have to go with the combined European/Med engine. Imagine the "What ifs." KVs vs Pershings anyone? :cool:
[ January 10, 2003, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Sgtgoody ]
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Again though this flies in the face of reality. It isn't very rare that a tank that bogs becomes immobile. To tell the truth even with modern armor with experienced crews it is very likely that if you are stuck for more than a few seconds then you are going to need help to get out. I'm not talking from books or studies here but from actual experience.
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I haven't had too much trouble bogging but I have had some notable incidents. I love Russian tanks because it is hard to bog them even if you try. It is a risk I accept because I know it is a risk that was actually there.
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I found that too here in Hohenfels. We constantly had situations in which one BMP would be dispatched to situations in which BLUEFOR would have sent a platoon. I think that was the ratio that a BLUE Lt. once said they considered us.
I was a squad leader (which translated to MRP commander) and have personally killed platoons in single engagements and companies in the course of an MRR attack. Not because of my great equipment but because my first instinct was always to attack.
Sorry to the rest of you, OPFOR rantings.
I know many people have commented on the toughness of modern vehicles vs WWII but they can be pretty fragile as well. It was not unusual to see, or rather hear, torsion bars on an M60 snap while the tank was sitting in the motor pool. Also I can't even count how many road wheels (sometimes in pairs complete with the hub) and sprockets have flown off during a mission. Remember we are talking about a lot of metal under a lot of stress. They break under normal conditions much less something as traumatic as falling any appreciable height.
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You have touched on an issue I have with the 34 as modeled, crew AI. While I will be the first to admit that German tactical skill and gunnery were dramaticly greater too often in CMBB 34s appear and sit. They will take no action and fire no shots. While green crews will tend to be less accurate and decisive they will fire. Many will engage in panic fire where they fire as fast as they can and aiming is haphazard. Still they will put rounds down range.
Nothing is more frustrating (to me atleast) than watching a green T34 line up (bright red engagement line) on a P(fill in blank) from the flank or rear and then just sit there. I have had tanks sit for almost an entire turn before their target notices them and kills them. Time delay following orders is one thing but "buck fever" by a tank crew is disturbing.
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Not the only one. I usually prefer to have a bunch of decent tanks rather than one Uber tank.
A quick note about the rate of imobilization. Judging by personal experience I think tanks unbog too easily. It was nearly a certainty that if you couldn't get out in a matter of seconds then you weren't doing so without help. This is with modern armor and all their automotive improvements. WWII with second or third generation AFVs would have presended a much worst arena from a bogging standpoint.
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Exactly right. You are never going to get good infantry to ride into the middle of a firefight in a metal coffin. Distance varies but nearly all armies had and continue to have doctrine that calls for the troops to dismount and fight on foot while the tracks provide fire support. The difference with trucks is that the HT still takes the grunts into tactical range while trucks normally drop them off beyond tactical range and make them walk the rest of the way. IOW with tracks you know that if you are getting out you had better be looking for a fight right away, with trucks you still have a little walking to do before you reach the hot zone.
Most armies have experimented with troops fighting while mounted but these are quickly discontinued when it becomes appearant how easy it is to kill a squad crammed into a metal box.
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It was the fact that the bulk of German armor was made up of these weaker models that made them rush such vehicles as the Marder series into production.
Sorry G. once these threads get going they kind of take on a life of their own.
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Maybe they did a Private Ryan and threw 88 shells at them.
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I believe that LAH, DR, and T Divisions all had the lavish alotment of one full battalion and the rest on trucks. Most of the other divisions had to rely on the good old LPC (2 points to anyone who knows what that means).
I don't have my reference material handy so I am not completely sure.[ January 09, 2003, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: Sgtgoody ]
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It is THE question, of life, the Universe, and EVERYTHING!
Looks like I am going to have to go DVD shopping again.
I can feel for the BFC guys. When I used to play D&D (you guys remember what pen a paper are don't you) everyone wanted me to be the DM. I almost never got to play.
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CalifVol you wouldn't happen to be at good ole Ft. Irwin would you?
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...can of Turtle Wax. I quickly began to polish my...
[ January 09, 2003, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: Sgtgoody ]
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First off thank you Steve for answering the question about vehicles breaking down before I even asked (is this guy good or what).
It seems to me that a lot of people who are complaining are working under a lot of false assumptions. Who says a tank can't find a way to bog itself on dry ground. I have seen tanks get themselves stuck in nearly every terrain and weather condition imaginable. Tanks are NOT the invulnerable , perfect off-road vehicles that they are often portrayed to be. They get stuck in ruts in roads. They get stuck in old foxholes. They get stuck in roadside drainage ditches, they get stuck in dried out puddles, they get stuck. Good commanders realize that this is a danger and plan accordingly.
Skill in commanding troops is not coming up with the perfect plan and putting together just the right force mix. Skill in command is being able to adapt to an ever changing environment. This means being able to adjust to your own forces as well as the enemy. So far all I have ever heard ladder players do is brag about their skill or complain about how the game is robbing them of it. Losing because one thing went wrong for you does not display skill but rather its opposite.
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Yes part of the Pioneers usually rode halftracks to battle. They also usually had several specialized tracks in the company (flame, mortars, etc) to help them with their tasks. The HTs tried to stay out of the way of enemy armor of course but they were expected to provide fire support to their infantry. They didn't just drive them to work and tell them they would come back for them later
.As far as I know Lehr was the only division ever to be fully armored. All four of its regiments rode in SPWs. Of course this didn't last long as production couldn't keep up with losses and soon they were just like all the other German units. If you look throughout the war you can find the Germans trying to do just about anything to give their infantry at least a little mobility. For example during the Ardennes Offensive ('44) one of 2nd Panzer's PGD battalions rode bicycles :eek: .
[ January 09, 2003, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: Sgtgoody ]
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An easier methode is to remove the CM disk and load a piece of balogna (round ham works just as well) into the cdrom. You will be amazed at the results.
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I usually play with my wife standing behind me with a list of household chores that need to be done. Kind of simulates the stress of actual combat especially when she starts throwing things.
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Sorry to but in. How or where do I sign up for the next tourney?
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You don't even need a large number. Just bring in a small number of 34s with a larger number of BTs or other tanks (as was actually the case) and fight them with nothing but PIIs and 37 armed PIIIs. You can even throw in a platoon of short PIVs if you want.
The problem I have with people saying things are too easy in the game is that they set them up that way. The only way for the Germans to have had a force composition the same as one encounters in most QBs is if they had waited till 42 to start the invasion. If you want to find out what it was really like then choose forces based on a real TO&E rather than based on what you need to ensure victory.
(No real reason for this I just love this Graemlin!
Thanks Para )
[ January 09, 2003, 05:27 AM: Message edited by: Sgtgoody ]
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To anyone reading this,
I don't know how much longer I have to live. Today the government raised the price of oranges by a penny and there have been mobs burning cars ever since. Unfortunatly someone saw me peeling a Sunkist for lunch and I have had to barricade myself in the bathroom. I managed to fight off the first wave by squirting Head and Shoulders in their eyes but I don't...wait...wait...here they come again!!
Out of H&S switching to J&J. Damn!! No Tears!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!
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Remember the most dangerous weapon is an unloaded gun (people who could hit a house with a shotgun can nail their neighbors right between the eyes with an unloaded gun). Maybe that 34 will throw track and have it land on top of a PAK. You can always hope!
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Definitly. Taking on anything other than light armor with regular infantry is a platoon mission. Although a squad can do it, don't count on it.
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Thanks man. Those things are great.
Has the Challenge Replaced Peng in CMBB? Who to Blame for the Death of the Cesspool
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AussiJeff you still breathing? :confused:
[ January 11, 2003, 05:02 AM: Message edited by: Sgtgoody ]