Soviet winter effects

[Guest Mike]

The Soviets REALLY need winter in 1941, andquite frankly the current efects don't seem to me to ite in with "reality", so for my 2nd effort I've redone the winter effects - 1940 is much, much harsher, and can start earlier, albeit with a slightly decreased chance.

there are also effects for 1942 (Stalingrad anyone??) through to 1945 that gradually lessen in effect and chance of occuring.

; 1941 Soviet Winter Reduces Supply

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#NAME= 1941 Soviet Winter

#POPUP= 1941 Soviet Winter Strikes

#FLAG= 1

#TYPE= 1

#COUNTRY_ID= 4

#TRIGGER= 67

#SEASON_FLAG= 4

#DATE= 1941/12/7

#SOURCE_POSITION=

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#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 110,1 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,1 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 101,7 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,8 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 96,10 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,14 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 105,15 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,19 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 106,20 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,17 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,17 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,15 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,10 [1,3]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,6 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,18 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 118,19 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,8 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,13 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 127,16 [1,3]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 130,12 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 128,9 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 136,8 [0,2]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 135,5 [2,4]

}

; 1942 Soviet Winter Reduces Supply

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#NAME= 1942 Soviet Winter

#POPUP= 1942 Soviet Winter Strikes

#FLAG= 1

#TYPE= 1

#COUNTRY_ID= 4

#TRIGGER= 50

#SEASON_FLAG= 4

#DATE= 1942/12/21

#SOURCE_POSITION=

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,12 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 110,1 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,1 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 101,7 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,8 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 96,10 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,14 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 105,15 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,19 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 106,20 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,15 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,10 [1,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,6 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,18 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 118,19 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,8 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,13 [2,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 127,16 [1,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 130,12 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 128,9 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 136,8 [0,4]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 135,5 [2,4]

}

; 1943 Soviet Winter Reduces Supply

{

#NAME= 1943 Soviet Winter

#POPUP= 1943 Soviet Winter Strikes

#FLAG= 1

#TYPE= 1

#COUNTRY_ID= 4

#TRIGGER= 25

#SEASON_FLAG= 4

#DATE= 1943/12/21

#SOURCE_POSITION=

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,12 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 110,1 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,1 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 101,7 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,8 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 96,10 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,14 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 105,15 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,19 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 106,20 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,15 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,10 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,6 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,18 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 118,19 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,8 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,13 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 127,16 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 130,12 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 128,9 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 136,8 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 135,5 [2,5]

}

; 1944 Soviet Winter Reduces Supply

{

#NAME= 1944 Soviet Winter

#POPUP= 1944 Soviet Winter Strikes

#FLAG= 1

#TYPE= 1

#COUNTRY_ID= 4

#TRIGGER= 25

#SEASON_FLAG= 4

#DATE= 1944/12/21

#SOURCE_POSITION=

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#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 110,1 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,1 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 101,7 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,8 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 96,10 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,14 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 105,15 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,19 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 106,20 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,15 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,10 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,6 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,18 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 118,19 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,8 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,13 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 127,16 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 130,12 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 128,9 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 136,8 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 135,5 [2,5]

}

; 1945 Soviet Winter Reduces Supply

{

#NAME= 1945 Soviet Winter

#POPUP= 1945 Soviet Winter Strikes

#FLAG= 1

#TYPE= 1

#COUNTRY_ID= 4

#TRIGGER= 25

#SEASON_FLAG= 4

#DATE= 1945/12/21

#SOURCE_POSITION=

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,12 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 110,1 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,1 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 101,7 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,8 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 96,10 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 102,14 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 105,15 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 107,19 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 106,20 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 111,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,17 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,15 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 112,10 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 114,6 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,18 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 118,19 [3,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,8 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 119,13 [2,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 127,16 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 130,12 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 128,9 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 136,8 [1,5]

#DESTINATION_RESOURCE= 135,5 [2,5]

}

[Retributar]

Stalin's Organist ...you are on the right-track and im glad someone is doing something about the Soviet Winter Effect's.

SC2 model's 'Reduced Combat Effectiveness', 'Reduced Air-Fleet Function's', & 'Increased Combat Casualties'...fairly well!.

However,...what i think is missing is...'Frostbite & Freezing Losses/Casualties'...'Immobilized Equipment' made unusable...[such as Self-Propelled Vehicle's frozen up & Artillery Gun's unable to fire]...and what-ever else i can't think of!.

[Honch]

Thanks, I 've included them in the next version of my Honch Expanded 1939.

[Retributar]

Okay...i remembered a another item or two!...

The Soviet Army through year's of 1st-hand experience with severe winter condition's had developed specialized lubricant's to be used to help make equipment function in harsh condition's,...the German's had No-Such-Technology!.

The Russian's developed their Tank's along Mr. Christie's specification's...some of which were...'Taller Tank Wheel's > therefore More Ground Clearance-Great for getting through the deep Snow!,..In-Fact!!!...the Russian's used their Tank's to Make Pathway's for their infantry to follow in order to get to hard to reach objective's much more easily!...the German Tanks were LOW-TO-THE-GROUND!.

The Russian's also were the 1st to use WIDE-TANK-TREAD'S...which greatly helped them to negotiate Mud,Swampy Earth & Snow!.

In Short!---the Russian's were not too much affected by the Winter!...where'as the German's were!.

The Russian's were the 1st to use sloped & or combination of Sloped/Rounded-Armour which made their Tank's difficult to kill!. The German's responded by incorporating some of those feature's in their Tiger-1 Tank and the the sloped armour feature in their Panther Tank!.

[Guest Mike]

Yeah I'm going to look at expanding my expertise, but small steps first!