Tiger headaches

[Glider]

Barring IS-3

[walpurgis nacht]

Originally posted by Glider:

I accept what you say, but I never, ever, in 200+ CM games I played, saw a solution like this one work.

I'll post one more screenshot just to quiet you down!

Remember now, my first and foremost point was that you don't need to bother with the tiger at all to win decisively unders these circumstances. All you need to do hammer everywhere he isn't. That is the most important thing to remember.

If you like, join CMHQ chat and let's play a tcp/ip game. My username is "faust".

[Glider]

Nobody disputes that, you can win with T-34/76s against Tigers, decisively. But Tiger dominates 1943 battles just like KV-1 dominates 1941 ones.

Have no time for TCP/IP, if you are willing we can PBEM, I can be reached at ivanX@cg.yu (remove X).

[walpurgis nacht]

So here you are. I would never actually use these cover arcs in reality, it just highlights the killsack all nice like. Notice he CANNOT kill a single t34 without exposing his flank.

[walpurgis nacht]

Originally posted by Glider:

Nobody disputes that, you can win with T-34/76s against Tigers, decisively. But Tiger dominates 1943 battles just like KV-1 dominates 1941 ones.

There is only 1 ground option to deal with a KV in June '41. An immobile 88mm flak gun. That's it save hail fire.

There are 10-20-30+ realistic ways to deal with a tiger in '43.

[Glider]

Originally posted by Walpurgis Nacht:

...There is only 1 ground option to deal with a KV in June '41. An immobile 88mm flak gun. That's it save hail fire.

There are 10-20-30+ realistic ways to deal with a tiger in '43.

Pioneers, tank hunters, in fact any kind of German infantry, 150mm guns towed or self-propelled.

[walpurgis nacht]

Originally posted by Glider:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Walpurgis Nacht:

...There is only 1 ground option to deal with a KV in June '41. An immobile 88mm flak gun. That's it save hail fire.

There are 10-20-30+ realistic ways to deal with a tiger in '43.

Pioneers, tank hunters, in fact any kind of German infantry, 150mm guns towed or self-propelled. </font>

[Glider]

Sorry

I just think KV-1s in 1941 situations are very similar to Tigers in 1943. And 150mm will kill a KV much more often than T-34/76 will kill a Tiger. HE of that calibre produces some strange effects.

[Glider]

Just checked, PzJg I can kill a KV (the best armoured 1941 version) with a tungsten shot out to medium ranges even from the front side. Heavy 28mm AT rifle can kill it with a side shot.

[Sven]

The thing is that I almost always play scenarios. That is, I'm stuck with whatever the scenario designer has given me. I can't buy my own units, and I just wanted to find out which units actually CAN take out a Tiger, preferably without having to get behind it.