phil stanbridge Posted January 25, 2001 Share Posted January 25, 2001 (This is my first picture post so I hope this works.) I am playing a pretty generic 500 point QB. I am the Germans. My plan is to test hafltracks and see what makes them tick in CM. I place these two behing this house, in between lots of cover AND set them to hide. In theory at least, there is now way any of the opposition can see them. I don't even move them. On this turn, as you see, the AI has spotted my halftracks and has started the arty. There is no enemy even close to this position, let alone any that can see me. The battle has only just started. [This message has been edited by phil stanbridge (edited 01-25-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeski Posted January 25, 2001 Share Posted January 25, 2001 I don't think the AI can see you. On a map that size the AI just happened to drop arty on a obvious advance route. Road/building/woods. Just a coincidence. ------------------ "If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them." - Jack Handey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted January 25, 2001 Author Share Posted January 25, 2001 That's what I thought. But I have tried this many times before on bigger maps and get the same results. Okay, it might take a fraction longer - but how come I can't see his ht's the same way he can see mine? Interesing eh? I have to hunt down the arty spotters and take them out. That's my only defense it would seem! Surely others have this problem?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olle Petersson Posted January 25, 2001 Share Posted January 25, 2001 Judging by the craters, it's an on map mortar that shoots area fire along the road. The halftracks are not targeted, even if the first ranging rounds were a bit off target and closer to the AFVs. Cheers Olle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted January 25, 2001 Share Posted January 25, 2001 Originally posted by phil stanbridge: That's what I thought. But I have tried this many times before on bigger maps and get the same results. Okay, it might take a fraction longer - but how come I can't see his ht's the same way he can see mine? Interesing eh? That doesn't look like off-map arty-are you sure that's what it is? The shellholes are in a more or less straight line along the road and there's not a lot of dispersion. Is there an on map mortar or direct fire gun? Either of those could have los and remain hidden while firing. ------------------ "If you can taste the difference between caviar on a cracker and ketchup on a Kit-Kat while blindfolded, you have not had enough aquavit to be ready for lutefisk." (stolen from some web page about lutefisk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted January 25, 2001 Author Share Posted January 25, 2001 It's definitely off-map arty guys. The AI rained hell on me for several turns, immobilizing the halftrack on the left. It's just the way it happens you know - it always happens to me!! Turn 2 or 3, the arty strikes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted January 25, 2001 Share Posted January 25, 2001 This may sound like a stupid question, but are you sure you are playing with full FOW? The reason I ask is that you mentioned that the battle just started, and I notice from the screenshot that it's turn 4. Well, it usually takes a couple of turns for an arty mission to fall, so that leads me to believe that you do not have full FOW on and the AI saw your HTs from the first turn. Here's another possibility. I notice that the americans have control of the town to your right front. There are several large buildings there, perhaps they managed to get a spotter on the top floor of one of them and possibly caught a glimpse of the right hand HT. I know that's a stretch but I've seen weirder stuff happen... ------------------ "I do like to see the arms and legs fly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil stanbridge Posted January 25, 2001 Author Share Posted January 25, 2001 Yeah, definitely full fog of war. This sort of stuff always happens to me! The arty barrage started on turn 3 if memory serves me correctly, and I got hit shortly afterwards with something heavier too! typical. The AI knows I hate the stuff, so it throws everything at me. I love this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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