Gun hit from behind

[CMplayer]

Just for fun I put a greyhound behind

a no-ammo King tiger at let it fire away

from about 10-15 meters. I wanted to see

if an unlucky ricochet might penetrate

the greyhound doing the firing.

Anyway, the King Tiger's turret was turned

away from the greyhound the whole time

and it never rotated the slightest. (I

had put some halftracks out front at long

range to occupy its attention). Imagine

my surprise when i hit the KT's gun!

That must have been one heck of a shot,

like when beetle baily does cannon firing

practice. Up, around, loop da loop, and

back down again or something. Is there

some realistic explanation for this?

regards,

--Rett

[Bruno Weiss]

Hmm, I've read about such things. Perhaps the shell penetrated the back of the KT's neck, and traveled down its arm, making a left turn at its third rib and passing through its galbladder, then ricocheting off its pelvis whereupon it traversed the length of its spine back to its right arm traveling down to its elbow and exited out its right wrist, to lay in its lap. Perhaps, or you just didn't see that other Greyhound on the grassy knoll?

I've seen quite a few gun hits, and watched at least twice as rounds fired from opposing tanks which both hit and exploded, passed each other in mid-air. I've always wondered, and am waiting to see, what would happen if they collided mid-way between the target.

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[Big Poppa Pump]

I think a "gun hit" can mean anything that renders the gun useless. The impact may have damaged optics or other mechanisms required to fire the gun.

[CMplayer]

Originally posted by Big Poppa Pump:

I think a "gun hit" can mean anything that renders the gun useless. The impact may have damaged optics or other mechanisms required to fire the gun.

You mean that a 37mm AP shell, hitting the

back of the turret was able to damage

the optics?

[David Aitken]

CMplayer wrote:

> You mean that a 37mm AP shell, hitting the back of the turret was able to damage the optics?

With all the supposed invulnerability of Royal Tigers and such, you tend to forget that even a ricochet is a matter of a dense chunk of metal being smacked off another metal object at high velocity. That may not penetrate, may not kill any of the crew, but it's still likely to cause trouble in any number of ways.

[:USERNAME:]

I take gun hits to also represent damage to traverse mechanisms, ring hits, etc. Now if it were a JagdTiger then somethings up.

[M Hofbauer]

David,

you are reverting to your former uneducated ego. I thought we had put the "Royal Tiger" common misperceptuion behind us :-p

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[CMplayer]

Originally posted by :USERNAME::

I take gun hits to also represent damage to traverse mechanisms, ring hits, etc. Now if it were a JagdTiger then somethings up.

Okay, but then the turret wouldn't be

able to rotate. The gun could still shoot,

right?

[CMplayer]

Originally posted by David Aitken:

CMplayer wrote:

> You mean that a 37mm AP shell, hitting the back of the turret was able to damage the optics?

With all the supposed invulnerability of Royal Tigers and such, you tend to forget that even a ricochet is a matter of a dense chunk of metal being smacked off another metal object at high velocity. That may not penetrate, may not kill any of the crew, but it's still likely to cause trouble in any number of ways.

I can buy that explanation. But I did

another test where i let a bunch of

american tanks fire 75mm HE at the front

of a tiger. They got one hit after another,

up to 20 hits per turn, BANG BANG BANG, on

the front of that tiger, doing 'no

significant damage'. What I was trying to

discern was whether all that noise, and

impact would shake up the Tiger crew so

much as to make them less effective at

returning fire. I didn't get a conclusive

answer, but those optics seemed pretty

tough.

regards,

--Rett