Gary Posted January 13, 2001 Share Posted January 13, 2001 I have two home built systems, one with a modem and internet connection, the other without. These two systems are networked via Linksys ethernet cards. I play h2h all the time via IPX connection. Please explain to me how to play h2h via TCP/IP. I've read the Internet Play Readme.txt however though I follow these steps I still fail to connect. Currently I select a scenario on the host computer, put in password, and rec. IP address. At this point I start the client computer select multiplayer, input the host computer's IP address, rec. message that the scenario is being downloaded,and....nothing. Eventually I'm told the connection has timed out and the attempt to connect ends. Do I require modems in both computers to play via my LAN? I've discovered that if I initialize the modem on the one computer that has it, the host computer (either one, with or without modem, I've tried either computer as the host) will proceed to the initial force deployment screen. When I access network configuration in my control panel both computers show TCP/IP Dial up Adapter and TCP/IP Linksys LNEPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter. I'm running Win 98. HELP!! What am I doing wrong. I just gotta start playing h2h. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madmatt Posted January 13, 2001 Share Posted January 13, 2001 Hi Gary! I was looking at this post and I noticed something that sounds different than in the email you sent me. The client DOES connect? I didn't recall you saying that before (maybe you did but I was reading those emails at 5am) . Okay, lets first confirm that your home internal network has TCP/IP running right. You may want to remove and then re-add the TCP/IP protocol on both systems. It is actually pretty easy to do this and unless you have manually changed any of the settings in there it shoulkd not disturb anything. If I recall, aren't you running both Network cards through a Linksys router as well? Is the internet connection through the modem shared as well? What is the IP address that you are entering? What, if any, security software are you running on either system? BlackIce Defender, Zone Alarm etc...? Let me know those answers and we will move forward with this. Madmatt p.s. technically this message belongs in the Tech Support area but I will leave it here as I have a feeling it will help others with home network configurations. [This message has been edited by Madmatt (edited 01-13-2001).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellros Posted January 14, 2001 Share Posted January 14, 2001 As Madmatt mentioned... be sure to check the settings on a firewall if any. When I tried my first TCP/IP game, I could not connect either due to the way the security settings on my firewall (Zone Alarm) were set. I played around with those, and now I can connect with no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 14, 2001 Author Share Posted January 14, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Madmatt: Hi Matt, Let me address each of your points I was looking at this post and I noticed something that sounds different than in the email you sent me. The client DOES connect? I didn't recall you saying that before (maybe you did but I was reading those emails at 5am) . The client says it's downloading scenario but I see no hard drive or network activity while it's supposedly doing this, so is it connecting or not? I can't really say. While this is happening on the client, the mouse pointer on the host changes to an hourglass. At this point that's all she wrote till I cancel or connection times out. Okay, lets first confirm that your home internal network has TCP/IP running right. You may want to remove and then re-add the TCP/IP protocol on both systems. It is actually pretty easy to do this and unless you have manually changed any of the settings in there it shoulkd not disturb anything. Removed TCP/IP on both systems and reinstalled. This time though Windows advised against it I allowed file and printer shareing on my system with internet access. Thought that would do it....Tested but thats not the answer...still no game connection. If I recall, aren't you running both Network cards through a Linksys router as well? Is the internet connection through the modem shared as well? Network runs through a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub, and no the internet connection is not shared. What is the IP address that you are entering? Pick one: everytime I try to connect I rec a different IP address for the host. Some examples: 169.254.145.32 169.254.122.100 169.254.31.14 169.254.212.210 I think this is because my TCP/IP properties show address assigned automaticaly. What, if any, security software are you running on either system? BlackIce Defender, Zone Alarm etc...? None Let me know those answers and we will move forward with this. A last observation I've noticed. When I exit the game on the host computer my dial up connection is displayed like my system is waiting for me to log on to the internet?? Thanks Gary p.s. technically this message belongs in the Tech Support area but I will leave it here as I have a feeling it will help others with home network configurations. Sorry about the area, I was just so frustrated about connecting that I posted on the first Combat Mission I saw. [This message has been edited by Madmatt (edited 01-13-2001).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NigelO Posted January 14, 2001 Share Posted January 14, 2001 > These two systems are networked via >Linksys ethernet cards. I play h2h all the >time via IPX connection. Please explain to >me how to play h2h via TCP/IP. Is it possible that you have not configured TCP/IP on each PC? Using Start>Settings>Control Panel>Network you should see slightly different things on each PC; the one with just the Ethernet card should have an entry that says TCP/IP. If not create it with Add>Protocol>Microsoft>TCP/IP and specify an address of 192.168.0.2, and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. On the PC with the modem, you should see two TCP/IP entries - one for the modem, and one for the Linksys ethernet adapter. If there is not one for the ethernet adapter, add it as described above, but give it an address of 192.168.0.1. (192.168.0.n addresses should not conflict with the modem TCP/IP address, which is probably not specified, but is obtained through DHCP. This addressing convention allows you to have whole subnets 'behind' your modem connection without conflicting addresses). Hope it helps. Nigel ------------------ Just nod if you can hear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wwb_99 Posted January 14, 2001 Share Posted January 14, 2001 One thing you may want to try is to check the box labeled 'default protocol' in your TCP/IP properties. You may have IPX set as default, which might throw a monkey wrench in a CM network game. WWB ------------------ Before battle, my digital soldiers turn to me and say, Ave, Caesar! Morituri te salutamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 14, 2001 Author Share Posted January 14, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NigelO: > These two systems are networked via >Linksys ethernet cards. I play h2h all the >time via IPX connection. Please explain to >me how to play h2h via TCP/IP. Is it possible that you have not configured TCP/IP on each PC? Using Start>Settings>Control Panel>Network you should see slightly different things on each PC; the one with just the Ethernet card should have an entry that says TCP/IP. If not create it with Add>Protocol>Microsoft>TCP/IP and specify an address of 192.168.0.2, and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. On the PC with the modem, you should see two TCP/IP entries - one for the modem, and one for the Linksys ethernet adapter. If there is not one for the ethernet adapter, add it as described above, but give it an address of 192.168.0.1. (192.168.0.n addresses should not conflict with the modem TCP/IP address, which is probably not specified, but is obtained through DHCP. This addressing convention allows you to have whole subnets 'behind' your modem connection without conflicting addresses). Hope it helps. Nigel <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Nigel, Thanks, did all you suggested and got a bit further. With these changes implemented the host computer now announces it is uploading the scenario, gets me to the setup phase, and displays the messsage "SET-UP Phase TCP/IP: Connected. Waiting for opponent to load scenario" While this is transpiring the client computer displays "TCP/IP: Downloading scenario data" (though no activity is evident). Eventually the game times out and both computers display "Error lost connection to opponent". We're getting closer.....does anybody have anymore suggestions? Thanks all. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 14, 2001 Author Share Posted January 14, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wwb_99: One thing you may want to try is to check the box labeled 'default protocol' in your TCP/IP properties. You may have IPX set as default, which might throw a monkey wrench in a CM network game. WWB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Thanks.....checked and tried it, but didn't make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 14, 2001 Author Share Posted January 14, 2001 To all who have been helping me. It seems that so far Nigel's suggestion has gotten me the closest to success. It would seem that I've reached a point where I evidently do now connect with a consistent IP address however my client computer just seems to refuse to download the scenario. I assume the connection is made because when I cancel the game on the host the client gives me a message that connection is lost. I just can't seem to get the client to download the scenario.... Any more help is greatly appreciated. thanks to all!! Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NigelO Posted January 14, 2001 Share Posted January 14, 2001 The only(?) thing I can add would be to ensure that all the other TCP options are turned off for the ethernet cards - no gateway, no DNS, no WINS, but then, you've probably tried pushing all the buttons by now, eh? Hope it helps. N ------------------ Just nod if you can hear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madmatt Posted January 14, 2001 Share Posted January 14, 2001 You said that after it timed out you noticed that your modem looked like it connected to your ISP? I think I see the problem. I bet your modem is detecting that TCP is being polled and then trying to dial out. Try this, disconnect the phone cord from your modem and try and host. See if you get a IP address this time and if you do try and join. My feeling is that your home lan/router is not setup to handle TCP/IP traffic between systems correctly. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 14, 2001 Author Share Posted January 14, 2001 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Madmatt: You said that after it timed out you noticed that your modem looked like it connected to your ISP? Madmatt<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Tried your suggestion but sorry to say still no success. Actually once I assigned specific IP addresses as Nigel suggested in his earlier post the whole ISP dial up box disappeared. I seem to be at the last point before success. The host has a consistent IP address, the client recognizes it, the host uploads the scenario and goes to the set up screen, but the final problem now is the client which though it says it is downloading the scenario it never does. I don't think the problem is with the host, it's just a matter of finding a way to make the client download the scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 15, 2001 Author Share Posted January 15, 2001 More update for whatever it's worth. I decided to try some tests with other games, and I've found that my TCP/IP LAN connection works fine with Starfleet Command, and Steel Panthers World at War. Has anybody out there had similar problems with h2h setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madmatt Posted January 17, 2001 Share Posted January 17, 2001 Gary, I will have to take care of this directly. In order to do that I will need you to connect to the CMHQ Chat server and then we can work on this together. I am almost always on there or you can email me and let me know when you will be about. This will be the easiest way to get to the bottom of this. Madmatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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