Tyro Posted July 7, 2000 Share Posted July 7, 2000 I was playing the 28 turn scenario, a walk in paris as the allies (NO SPOILERS) I made some good guesses and had some luck, so by turn 20 I had taken all of the victory flags. The Germans had a morale of 8% and victory of 14%. I had 90% of my troops and tanks left, so the situation was well in hand. I searched and found an armored wagon and some crew members which I elimanated on the next two turns, the morale dropped to 7%, I then spent the next six turns capturing or elimanating some stray crews and routed squads, at the end of the scenario the German morale was still at 7% and victory at 14%. How do they calculate victory and morale? The computer said I had total victory. Is it possible to have 95% or 100%? What determines surrender conditions? Given the pitiful remains of the German forces, I would have surrendered long before the end. Just curious to see if anyone else has had this experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.Tankersley Posted July 7, 2000 Share Posted July 7, 2000 Never having played with less than full Fog Of War, I can only surmise that when FOW is turned off you are allowed to see the enemy morale level to be able to claim their morale was at 8%. Also note that, at least under FOW, the victory levels displayed may not be accurate since the enemy may have forces that you can't see controlling flags without your knowledge. I don't remember for sure, but I think for the computer to force an automatic surrender the losing side's morale must be < 25% that of the winner. (In the case you describe, I would expect that if your morale was over 32% the Germans should have surrendered.) There might be another condition on this as well, though. However, it is possible (nay, likely) that the AI was ready for a cease-fire. You can (secretly) request a cease-fire using one of the hotkeys (I don't remember which one offhand). If both sides have requested a cease-fire, the scenario ends. Note that you are NOT informed that your opponent has asked for a cease-fire; also, you can rescind the request by issuing the command again and answering "no" to the confirmation dialog. ------------------ Leland J. Tankersley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyro Posted July 8, 2000 Author Share Posted July 8, 2000 The manual says if one sides rating is 15% or less and the other side has at least four times as high there will be an automatic surrender unless the other side has reinforcements coming. In the scenario I described the ai morale was at 7% and mine was at 89% and they did not receive reinforcements, so I am at a loss to explain why they didn't bail out under what was a hopeless situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Beman Posted July 8, 2000 Share Posted July 8, 2000 In order to get a 100% victory you would have to kill or capture EVERY enemy, occupy all victory locations, and suffer no casualties yourself. I dunno about how the ingame victory % is calculated, but I'm pretty sure the % morale is based solely on your combat-effective forces present. DjB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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