stealthsilent1
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ohh you sneaky bum, trying to take the lead by making me look bad. It's ooooaaaaan.hmm I am not sure that came out the way you intended. Ken I think he earned demerit points.
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no, they aren't stupid, that's probably a media tactic. Of course they don't believe that people will give up because they are so afraid. It's part of the propaganda. See what they do is make all the countries around them afraid like hell with all their videos. I was in Lebanon this summer, and I've seen the beheading videos and my uncle's friend was beheaded and I was scared ****less of being beheaded. Pure terror.Before we go super off topic:
The danger of the word terrorist is that it's a very handy tool to discard opposing forces and view points.
The more useful definition is looking to the focus of the group's operations. If it's fighting enemy forces in an asymmetrical manner (blowing up convoys, IED attacks, small unit ambushes), then insurgent or guerrilla is a more balanced perspective. The focus of the terrorist is not so much fighting in an asymmetrical battle against the enemy's military forces, but in fighting the enemy's will to fight through atrocity. Kidnapping and killing random westerners has virtually no impact on the mechanical ability of the west to drop bombs on ISIS, however in their own stupid little way they believe that the fear caused by their actions will cause the west to bow down to their demands.
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Last 2 minutes of the second movie are the best parts
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real winners realize that there are no rules, that rules are just the ideas of stupid people, so there are no rules to follow, I make the rules.Just let me cut you off right here.
You'll win? Pha. with this post?
I don't see any reason why you should win.
You thought you were being smart, didn't ya? Posting bold after your guess, trying to prove that you don't play by the rules.
Looks like you won't win after all. If you try to be awesome don't try it here.
Plus I bet you 10 bucks you're gonna suck it. I swear you're never going to win, what was your guess?
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so the first 3 minutes would be more of the media propaganda, and they are exaggerating it, it's not like, you go into the army and you come out as a robot killing machine, haha, no the first 3 minute sounds kinda stupid.... Yea, in 1987, I don't think things change. Maybe it's just the outside looking in.Essential watching:
Second video (here) was nominated for an Oscar for best documentary.
No no, this documentary is biased, its not like. People can't think on their own and have free will on their on, this documentary is bs.
Second documentary is better, it's sometimes 80% right and sometimes 60% right.
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see me I've heard two sides of the story. I am Lebanese and my country is complete ****, and my uncle was part of the militia during the war, and whenever I ask him and hear him talk about war, he always says war is the worst thing in the world, and that it's sick and ugly. Just men, who could be loving each other, hating and killing each other, even though they are the same, then I hear the other side of the story and this Vietnam war veteran talks about why he loves war, and I think I understand how both of them fit into the big picture.I really like your response, it seems to be very honest.
But what about the killing? Did you ever kill someone in combat? How did you feel about it? Emotionally, i mean, not from a rational point if view. I hope that question is not too personal.
I have never killed a man. I can only somwhat image what it may feel like to shoot a man from my experience with killing animals. The first time i killed an anmial was when i was like 10, i was fishing with my family and i really found it difficult at fiirst. There is another living beeing, and may it only be a fish, that has eyes like you and bleeds like you and is able to experience pain and you are supposed to take a club smash its head in. I really found it difficult to kill at first. But after getting over that initial "barrier", i really liked it. I felt like a predator and catching my prey gave me some kind of satisfaction. Also i had a good moral justification for killing these fish because we barbecued and ate them afterwards
.http://public.wsu.edu/~hughesc/why_men_love_war.htm
And he is talking about the repression he hated living in the us, and he loved being able to do what he wants (that's something everyone wants), and he loved the brotherhood of the army, and he thought of it as a game, which was both horrifying and also exhilarating, but once the initial fun went away, that war was hard and dirty, just a game where you lose all your brothers one by one. And he also talks about the "us vs them" mentality and the group cohesion and how that felt like he was really home.
I'm kinda confused, but I have some of the pieces.
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man I hate that "anxiety," it's this paranoia that always makes you restless and makes life 10x harder. **** I hate fear, it's a soul stomper. But but you're right, if I think about it, if you're not emotionally attached to someone, and you get over the gore, it's not that big of a deal. But if its like your mom dying infront of you. It's gonna hurt.Re: Fear
It's like if you have to cross as series of potentially busy streets to get to work or do anything. The anxiety builds from the "last time a bus almost ran me over crossing this one!" much more than the bus actually having almost run you over. During the event you're too focused on the act of not being run over so not much fear there, and outside of circumstances that are a lot like the road you almost got run over on, there's not the context to expect that bus.
What can creeps up on you is when things start to align that look, smell and sound a lot like when the bus almost ran you over. The human brain is awesome at detecting patterns so if stuff starts to really look like that road and that bus it can trigger a response. Conversely that anxiety eventually goes away as it is readily apparent that the bus is no longer something to worry about.
So in that regard there used to be stuff that I knew from Iraq to be bad signs (empty streets, piles of trash, guys filming stuff, loud noises etc) that would trigger low level anxiety back in the US (I wasn't flinching or hiding under tables, more like some corner of my brain stood to because something was up), but after a few July 4ths passed since I'd been to Iraq, fireworks and the like did not trigger any sort of response, and it has been a while since I had any sort of reaction.
I imagine someone with a much more traumatic trip overseas might take a long time to unlearn the really bad stuff. But it's not like you live in eternal fear of all things, it's just much closer to anxiety.
Re: Blood and gore
Only if you knew the person. The smell of blood and generally body parts in general trigger some sort of "THIS IS BAD PLACE GO AWAY FROM BAD PLACE" response in the lizard corner of your brain. Once you get over that part, if there's no danger to you (the attack is over), and you're not especially attached to the body parts source of origin it's just unpleasant.
I mean I carried a human hand from a suicide bomber around in my backpack (in a baggie). I still use that backpack lots without any real feelings that the hand is HAUNTING MY ARMY BACKPACK OH DOG WAY. The dead can't hurt you, blood carries infections pathogens, not bad juju so it's something best not to cover yourself in it, but it's not something to freak out about too much.
The much more unpleasant part is when you have wounded and you need to do "something" about it. Because you're attached to the keeping someone alive and intact it's quite stressful when you're in a position where you cannot do anything for them (in my case just the practical reality that the medics were already working on them, and I had nothing to do with evacuating them).
Re: Propaganda and dogma
I received several times as much in the military, as I did in college. The yay Army stuff was way less aggressive than GO TEAM GO during football season, and the "You are in Iraq to help people" was only mentioned in passing compared to the more realistic "You are in Iraq to help train and equip the blah blah blah partner units blah blah blah in conjunction with other agencies blah blah restore blah to blah."
Dissent was fairly freely expressed among peers. There really just wasn't much of a sense of being indoctrinated.
Yea for the propoganda, I thought there would be more, but it's cool how there's not. Is it kind of the thing where the army guys just say "I'm just an army guy, i just do what they tell me, I don't deal with the bs politics."
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no but I say propoganda so you know what I'm talking about. If I said something different then you wouldn't know what I was saying, but you're way of looking at things is right.From my personal experience, I think calling it "propaganda" is a bit much. You just learn to know the difference between what is important and what is not. What makes you want to use the term "propaganda" anyway? Also, your first question, the part about "for absolutely nothing" is an opinion not a statement of fact. I would think such a statement would be rather insulting to most guys who got involved. All that political crap is for Generals and politicians.
My $.02
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The AAR will not be delayed. Waiting is weakness. It will not be tolerated.
The first turn will be expected within 2 hours of a contact with the winner. Who will then become the loser!
ahhh bullshet, that's like, you got to have no life to be constantly checking the forums.
you sneaaaaaaky bastard, hahaha, man, see, if I were you, I'd have as much fun just messing with people and making them beg and do what you want, but at the end. I wouldn't buy them a game at all, and then that would make it 2x more fun.
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No, I thought of a better question.
How do you deal with the military dogma and the propoganda it constantly feeds you?
See, that's a very good question.
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What's it like with the fear? And the fear at night especially? And seeing all that blood and gore for absolutely nothing, that must destroy you.
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AHHAHAHHAhaHAh you alllllllllllll suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, dude, I'm totally going to be the winner and you are all are going to suck on my big greesy mud pile of dirt. Ohhh jesus, you all have no idea what games are all about, the developers always delay the thing sooooooooo far off that all your answers sucked so much butt. Man, I'm going to win !!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH, man i'm freaken excited, everyone was giving me soooo much crap, and now it's going to be the other way around. And I don't even need a "correct" format, being right IS the correct format, man. I'm gonna be exactly right. I'll bet you all 5 bucks. Jesus yes. YES. YEeeeeessssssssssssssssssss.
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But seriously my guess was on febuary 8th, and you are all.............. going to suck it. Yes babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
Yes the baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! y;eaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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realistic doesn't mean good. The world could of played out in a billion different way, each as real as the next. It really doesn't matter what the game is about or how it's played, but what makes it good is that it makes us use the skills inside of us and that is as real as you can get. What if in the future they have super laser beams that can shoot in between atoms to kill you, and senors that can detect life within a 20 mile radius, those things are real, in the future, who cares what this version of what we have is in the game or not, because you can't change the genre of what it is. A game, like any other game. The medium is us, and that's what makes it "real"I would rather BF went for the most realistic modeling of what happens on the battlefield?
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true datOne thing CMBS will teach you is not to sit in a position for too long. If your HMG holed a couple APCs and suppressed some distant infantry in a building its job is done. Better to bug on out the back door before they bring up their tanks or ATGM launchers, set up in another location.
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and that's a good thing.maybeits trying to emulate the U.S. army, but it's a game.
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maybeits trying to emulate the U.S. army, but it's a game.stealthsilent, the kind of scout/snipers you are asking for don't have a place at the tactical level, although they could be very useful. In RL they are division and corps level assets. Remember CMBS is built around real life TO&Es, and elite scout/snipers aren't battalion level operators.
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shootand scoots one of my favorite movesAll along the 'third player' in CM has been the terrain. Its not just weapon against weapon or technology against technology. You need to learn to play the topography like a fiddle. In CMBS you need to not just 'shoot-&-scoot', you need to 'peek-&-scoot' as well. Expose your scout/FO/sniper only as long as they need to spot the enemy, then get them back behind a terrain feature before someone take a pot-shot at them. Someone - either Bil or Chris - had a FO call in an artillery strike then he got himself out of LOS until the spotting round was due to drop, then he pops up in time to do his job.
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you know, it's just a game with rules. Just like anything else. Like chess, or tag, or hide and go seek, or chopping someone's head off with a knife. It's all the same.Yes and no. Talking about it is fun in the context of what you can and can't do. This has gone way beyond that. You will know how it works when the game is out and you can try it. 99% of the suppositions you have floated are just flat out wrong. No offense intended, just a clarification. It is cool you are excited by the game's impending release, but slow down just a tad. I think you will find the advantages are not totally overpowering. I have been on the receiving end of Russian T90s spotting my FOs who I thought were well hidden in woods and I have seen other circumstances where they went right past a guy hiding. CM's variables are huge. You'll have to learn what you can get away with and sometimes you'll find things work sometimes and not other times. Stop worrying about Ghillie suits, or uber tech that makes it impossible to scout. The fundamental concepts of recon still work and you will find your scout/sniper teams to still be functional. US scout sniper teams have some advantages based on doctrine over Russians. (They function as a team as a weapons platform rather than as an individual). This makes them excellent recon elements. Due to the god eye phenomenon of playing a game, you also get the same amount of intel from a Russian sniper, however because of the nature of doctrine, what you can do with that intel is very different. It is a very very different game in how it plays, but the same core precepts are still very much there. Ignore them and you die just like in CMSF, just faster.
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and being weird is a good thing, everyone is weird, I'm weird, I love being weird. But being wrong is another thing. Being "offended" over nonsense it's just, pathetic. Pathetically wrong. You have to have a sense of humor in life and not take something seriously, or you'll kill yourself one day. You got to laugh at the things in this life. How black people are continually being segregated against, or how the Americans killed all the native Americans, and called it freedom. It's funny because you're laughing at the Americans at how stupid they are. That's why its funny.Yes I am, but that has nothing to do with this.
Still it is a joke in bad taste. Even being weird I could recognize that.
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but you're right, that joke sucked, it's not funny, I could do a better one.Yes I am, but that has nothing to do with this.
Still it is a joke in bad taste. Even being weird I could recognize that.
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no, but that's not what I mean, it's dark humor. It's funny because it's stupid or wrong, or both. You're supposed to detach yourself from the situation and laugh at it because it's obvious how stupid the joke was, or how wrong that statement is. That's why it's funny.Yes I am, but that has nothing to do with this.
Still it is a joke in bad taste. Even being weird I could recognize that.
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dude, it was a joke, it's not meant to be serious. And how is called Indian people smart bad? You're weird.I'd have left it with a negative point, but I already used my one for the day. This was pretty darn ignorant. A good part of the team I work with is based in India. A great bunch of men and women. Referring to them in the way you have would get me in front of HR and rightly so. It is rude and disrespectful. You may want to watch comments like that as it is one sure way to get yourself banned off the forum.
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have you met an Indian before? They are like miniature Einsteins.You are being extremely naive.
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jesus christ that's sick, I would hate to be in a war.Interestingly, I've just finished reading Ernst Junger's book, Storm of Steel ( WW1 German soldier's memoir of the war 1914 - 1918 ).
I can't find the exact page, but in one section he describes being absolutely amazed that the birds were singing and carrying on as normal despite artillery going mental all around his position.
For sure, initially any bang is going to scare them off/shut them up, but perhaps when it goes on day after day, they just got used to it
I'll see if I can find the description.
Edit: Here you go - this is early in the book, in the chapter "Les Eparges" ( sometime mid-1915 )
"Towards noon, the artillery fire had increased to a kind of savage pounding dance. The flames lit around us incessantly. ...
The odd thing was that the little birds in the forest seemed quite untroubled by the myriad noise; they sat peaceably over the smoke in their battered boughs. In the short intervals of firing, we could hear them singing happily or ardently to one another, if anything even inspired or encouraged by the dreadful noise on all sides."
- Storm of Steel - Ernst Junger © 1920, 1961 J.G. Cotta'sche Buchhandlung Nachfolger GmbH, Stuttgart, 2004 Penguin Books.
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