FredKors
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The bug seems to only get triggered by multi-option load planes: if you save and reload the game after a bombing, these planes 'forget' (most of the time) their previous bombing and bombs again with full load.
These are the planes of CMBB bugged:
LaG-G3 FB
YAK-1 FB
Me Bf 109F FB
He Hs 129B-1 DB
MIG 3 FB
YAK-7B FB
Me Bf 109G-6/R1 FB
YAK-9B FB
IL-2 TYPE 3 GA
Me Bf 109G-10/R1
YAK-9T TB
Me Bf 109G-14/R1
This bug is present in CMAK too.
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FredKors - Band of Brothers (www.webandofbrothers.de)
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I'm pessimistic about the fixing of this AIR-bug (CMBB and CMAK).
As programmer I can say that this sort of bugs can be easily be found and fixed (an hour or work?).
The problem is that every change in the code has to be tested extensively because there is ever the possibility to introduce collateral effects (see the 1.02 of CMAK). Then they have to produce the patchs for all versions of CMAK and CMBB, to distribuite them and so on.
Maybe 2 days of works?
What is the prize for? Personal satisfaction? Professional satisfaction? The satisfaction of the 0.05% of the CMAK and CMBB users (I and Le Tondu)?
Say me: who of us will not buy CM2 because of this bug?
In Italy we say: not even a dog shakes its tail gratis...
[ December 13, 2004, 02:01 AM: Message edited by: FredKors ]
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Yes, it is the same. I have posted the list of the planes of CMAK 'bugged'. Soon I'll post the list of the planes of CMBB.Originally posted by Philippe:Is the CMBB bug identical to the CMAK bug ?
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The bug seems to only get triggered by multi-option load planes: if you save and reload the game after a bombing, these planes 'forget' (most of the time) their previous bombing and bombs again with full load.
These are the planes of CMAK bugged:
Me Bf 109 F/B
He Hs 129B-1 D/B
Me Bf 109G-6/R1 F/B
P-38L Lightning F/B
This bug is present in CMBB too.
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LOL. So my WIFE is THE BUG! LOLOriginally posted by Le Tondu:laying a Large scenario and the wife needs you to stop and do something with her?
CMBB too has this same AIR-BUG! LOL
Thank you, mate!
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Great job! Very great job!Originally posted by Le Tondu:I'm glad that you've asked that FredKors and for what its worth (everyone,) I did a test.
I made the same thing you made. My conclusions are the same: ALL RIGHT! NO BUG!
BUT BUT BUT
then I changed the plane: I used a Messerschmitt. I found the bug immediately!
I think the bug is linked to the random weaponry of the Messerschmitt (1x550 lb OR 4x110).
These are the files of the movies (without passwords) and the scenario.
Thanks again! :cool: :cool: :cool:
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There is anyone that could confirm this bug?
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There is anyone that could confirm this bug?
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There is anyone that could confirm this bug?
The Truth is Out There.
[ December 10, 2004, 05:08 AM: Message edited by: FredKors ]
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Bravo!Originally posted by 37mm:its important that people know about this not only so they can avoid cheats but avoid becoming cheats inadvertently
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Tell me, in a PBEM game where you only make one turn at a time, how often did you have to save your game? </font>Originally posted by Leopard_2:</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Le Tondu:
If this is happening automatically and no one can control aircraft, how can his opponent possibly be cheating?
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Your knowledge is limited.Originally posted by no_one:... To my knowledge no one knew of this until now...
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Uao, there is a light in the dark universe! With a lone Me109 (in CMBB) I was able to get 5 bombings (one for each strafe) in my tests! This seems to be caused only by saving/reloading (normal PBEM is not affected). But if your PBEM opponent saves/reloads the game...Originally posted by Grimthane:I think the point here was that if you do a save the plane seems to be getting a free reload of bombs that it oughtn't.
It would be unfortunate if that is the case - everyone in the know gets a free bombing run (more than one if you keep resaving?)
IMHO this bug makes completely unuseful Air Support... (overcast forever!
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There is no hope to have an official answer, right?
It seems to me this is a relevant problem...
:confused: :confused: :confused:
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Hi!
If you buy a plane armed with bombs, the behaviour you expect is:
First attack - Bombing
Attack 2 - Strafe with guns
Attack 3 - Strafe with guns
and so on...
(the number of attacks depends on the type of the plane and other factors)
If you play my Test Scenario 100 times, 100 times you will get the above behaviour (this is correct). NEVER you wil get TWO or MORE BOMBINGS!!!
BUT everytime you break the sequence of air-attacks SAVING and RELOADING the game:
First attack - Bombing
SAVE THE GAME
RELOAD THE GAME
Attack 2 - BOMBING (with high probability (70%?))
Attack 3 - Strafe with guns
and so on...
... the plane 'forgets' his previous bombing(s)!
So with a lone plane you could have 2 or more bombings.
This bug is present in CMBB too and affect not only scenarios but also PBEM.
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N.B. I corrected the link for the test scenario...
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Exact! In a game I'm playing I have lost a plt of infantry for 4 bombings of a lone plane...Originally posted by Kingfish:I think I see what Fred is trying to say. As I understand it, planes in CM are coded to use their primary weapons first, then follow up with strafing. Fred's test scenario confirms that the ME109 made one bomb pass, then strafed. But when he resaved and reloaded it was equipped with a second bomb.
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Steps to reproduce the problem:
1- Play this scenario as Russian Test Scenario
Russian: 1 plt infantry
German: 1 plt infantry 1 Messerschmitt
2- Go! go! go! without give orders until the plane bombs
3- In the subsequent turns the plane strafes with cannons. All right! This is the correct behavior (IMHO).
But:
1- Play the scenario as Russian
2- Go! go! go! without give orders until the plane bombs
3- SAVE the game
4- EXIT the scenario
5- RELOAD the saved scenario
6- In the following attack WITH VERY HIGH PROBABILITY the plane BOMBS AGAIN!
7- SAVE the game
8- EXIT the scenario
9- RELOAD the saved scenario
10- In the following attack WITH VERY HIGH PROBABILITY the plane BOMBS AGAIN!
... and so on
This is a bug as I am a programmer (and I am a programmer)...
FredKors - Band of Brothers
N.B. I corrected the link for the test scenario...
[ December 07, 2004, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: FredKors ]
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