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perfect, thanks, I didn't realize that it contained so much info about map-making...
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Can anyone point me to a tutorial for using overlays, etc. to create maps based on Sov topo maps?
I didn't see any such tutorials stickied in the CMFI or CMBN mod subfora. If a good tutorial exists, would it make sense to stick it here?
Also, what is the best site for uploading/dowloading maps? CMMODs? The Repository?
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An account albeit from the Battle of Kursk
"Once the 169th Tank Brigadse which was operating in gront, reached the line of the Komsomolets Farm, the enemy, firing a the tanks with artillery, heavy mortars and from Panzer VI tanks dug ino th ground, began to conduct massed air attacksy JU-88 bombers and by anti tank JU-87 dive bombers with three 37mm automatic cannon. The attacks intensified in step with the brigade's further advance, and by approximately 1800 8.07.43 these attacks turned into an uninterrupted assault from the air. It is possible to judge the ferocity of theJU-97 attacks from the following fact one JU-97 vulture, damaged by our anti aircraft gunners, flew directly towards a T-70 tank and struck it with all its mass. he tank was left burning , but the crew somehow survived. As a rule , the JU-87 aircraft attacked our tanks from the rear, strikng the engine compartment with their fire (the summary of combat operations of the 2nd Tank Corp's combat operations qouted on P331Demolishing the Myth: the tank battle at Prokhorovka, Kursk JJly 1944: an operational narrative" Valeriy Zamulin
I'm not sure how this proves your point; the only tank described as being destroyed was a T70 by the German plane crashing into it, and the Sov crew still survived...
Does Zamulin go on to provide actual figures for Sov tanks destroyed by German aircraft (other than via crashing into them) or accounts of Sov tanks fleeing before such an "uninterrupted assault from the air"?
This is not to say that German airpower was ineffective, it seems to have been very effective in earlier period of the war, for instance, but that doesn't mean that by Kursk every Stuka sortie resulted in a demoralized, much less destroyed, Sov tank formation.
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I think the quests in Red Thunder are actually quite cool. Love the Tiger boss at the end of the Bagration level. Also the scene where Rudel attacks the dragon while jumping out of his Stuka was EPIC! Shame the Stalin dragon only dropped a PPSh though.
Well, I've only gotten to the point where you have to use the anti-tank dogs to take out the zombie SS sniper--thanks for the spoiler, jerk!
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Come on am i the only one complaining about the lack of substance?
I think we just define substance differently... And you didn't mention it, but no there are STILL no horses!
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Yea, uniforms by Hugo Boss in fact:
Well, you learn something new every day...and probably camo paint from Coco Chanel:
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Hi guys
I mean I have checked out Combat Mission Shock Force before and judging by the content, nothing impressive or new has been added to justify that price?
You are totally right, nothing's been added, in fact lots of things have been subtracted--just look at the Russian tanks--in CMSF we had T-80s, and in this game we get T34s, and 34 is MUCH less than 80! I mean, what's up with that?
And there no ATGMs and no satellite communications; I don't know why they took all the cool stuff out and replaced it with a bunch of crap? It is truly not an expansion but a subtraction!
I don't think this is the game you're looking for...
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And yet you played lots of CMx1 where your troops were quantum clouds of abstract Firepower spread somewhere in the 20m square... and calculated from the centre of it: an Action Spot for all Actions.
I really don't get what's so distasteful about that mechanic. Sure, it imposes some limitations, but such things are necessary in games, and the impositions are vastly less constraining than they were in x1.
Well, obviously I don't mind a bit of abstraction, and the point is that in CMx1 the troops would go where I told them even if abstracted, and not snap to an action spot grid.
Maybe I haven't figured it out yet, but i have a hard time getting troops to take advantage of folds in the terrain, building corners, etc., where it's important to be in a particular spot.
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Don't know why, but I was bored to death with CMSF and. Normandy, and Italy wasnt much better. I hared all the the hedgerow scenarios in particular.
Also, just to be clear, I'm not certain that CMRT will suck me in like CMBB, because CMBB had a vastly wider scope than CMRT. Mreover a good part of the reason I haven't much played till now was precisely because I didn't like some of the mechanics (action spots, ugh!), which won't change much in this title.
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Don't get Ivan's war; it Doesn't really have anything to do with military history, more like social history--you'll be disappointed!
I've got "through the maelstrom" but haven't read it yet.
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76mm - if everyone who wrote (or at least has had translated) memoirs on one side was a rogue, a liar, or too stupid to put a sentence together and only wants to talk about potatoes, would you still read those? Next we will be reading Signal magazine propaganda and stories of the glorious shock workers because there was lots of it written...
I guess our main difference is that I don't consider Bessonov (author of tank rider) to be a"rogue, liar, or too stupid to put a sentence together." While it wasn't great literature, I found it to be interesting and credible. As to the potatoes, probably all of the soldier-level memoirs I've read include a lot about food, or lack of it, because that's what important to them. It's part of the psckage.
If the reason one wants to read a certain genre is to learn something about men in combat, the theater and time are not the most important thing, honesty and insight are.
I don't really agree with you here--sure honesty is critical, but I can live without a lot of insight, as long as the author accurately sets down what he saw and what he thought, I've gotten what I expect out of a memoir. Moreover, I've read lots of first hand accounts from North Africa, Normandy, Vietnam, etc, and they are all very different from the east front, which was pretty unique. Reading about the invasion of Okinawa or whatever doesn't teach me much about Russia.
If it is to learn about conditions in a theater and a time, or about the military art under these or those conditions or challenges, then the memoir form is completely irrelevant, and a good unit history by any objective historian works.
Generally agree with you here, but there are few good Sov unit histories, in particular. Sure glantz does a great job of describing what happened, but not so great at conveying "conditions", or the human aspect of the war.
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Death of the Leaping Horseman, the unit history of the 24th Panzer division, immediately springs to mind. .
Sure, Jason mark has already been cited; he's excellent but as far as I've seen he focuses exclusively on Stalingrad, and more on the German side. The amount of detail in his books is really incredible.
...and not all good first hand accounts are of WW II in the east (Goodbye Darkness immediately springs to mind, WW II Pacific, if you want a standard for personal).
With all due respect, this thread is specifically about east front, not memoirs in general. Most of the German east front memoirs I've read have not been great, and the Sov ones are worse. We have to bear in mind that many of the Sov memoirs have come out since the nineties, and the Sov publishing industry has not been flush with cash for editors, etc, so to expect western standards is not realistic. The "I remember" site that JK likes to quote is a good example--lots of interesting material, but the accounts ramble and some of the interviewees have probably gotten at least some tHinges confused in the decades since the war.
I for one am glad to hear what they have to say anyway.
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Jason, it's been several years since I've read the book, but I seem to recall plenty of descriptions of combat in the book, if not tactics, and don't recall anything particularly unrealistic.
I don't think I've found many memoirs from the East Front in which someone in the front lines discusses tactics extensively ..maybe Tigers in the Mud...otherwise there are some German unit histories, but not much for the Sovs. Jason Mark's Island of Fire is pretty awesome...
But I'm not sure that I'd agree that there are a lot of "honest or well written memoirs or histories" of tactical combat on the Eastern Front, in fact I'd say there are precious few, and not many have been pointed out in this thread, so if you're aware of some Jason, please share.
Operational/strategic level stuff is a different matter of course, there's much more at that level.
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Vanir - of Rider, that it is poorly written. Darn it was cold. Then we found some potatoes. War is cruel. We had to walk uphill to the front both ways. A lot of people got killed. Then we found a little hut and got warm for a little bit. Gosh it was cold. You had to be there.
And you were expecting what exactly? Sure I was disappointed that he didn't quote Nietzche or give his thoughts on the Clausewitzian implications of Tolstoy's accounts of the War of 1812, but was content to get his reminisces about his experiences on the front, which probably did consist of a lot of potatoes and a lot of cold.
In any event, there are damn few good Russian soldier-level (or any level for that matter) memiors for the East Front, so I'm glad to get what I can, within reason.
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The radio looks like a toolbox. What about just showing a tuning dial, or perhaps an antenna?
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Steve has said that partisans will be included, perhaps in a "pack".
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The huge losses suffered in 1941-42 must have been heavily felt there, especially since the units lost during Barbarossa would have contained a large proportion of the peacetime (non-reserve) officer corps.
Presumably you are referring to both the German and Soviet armies here? I would argue that the Germans suffered more from this process, as the experienced cadres that they lost had more and better experience than their Soviet counterparts.
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The incredibly frustrating thing is how they will not hug the wall when they enter a building. Instead, they run to the door and then run straight out perpendicular to the building in the wide open and start going in the door, lined up, ready to now be gunned down.
Common sense would have them straddling the door on either side and entering one by one as the rest of the team hugs the wall and waits their turn. This is how it happens in real life...if the soldiers want to live.
Yup, I noticed this as well, although I did it with a squad rather than an HMG. In future I will try to break everything down to the smallest unit before moving.
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Terkin posted this link in the thread below, with an excellent 1942 Sov manual on tactical symbols (in Russian):
http://www.maps4u.lt/lt/includes/siuntiniai/Z/Taktiniai_zenklai/Taktiiniai_simboliai_1942.pdf
See post #11 in the following thread for Terkin's original post, and #17 for my brief explanation of where to find which symbols:
http://www.battlefront.com/community/showthread.php?t=113614&page=2
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Why shouldn't they? Russia has been fanatical about access to a warm water port since Peter the Great. Do you really think they were going to risk losing access to their outlet to the Black Sea and from there the Mediterranean?
um, they have plenty of other access points to the Black Sea within Russia itself, such as Novorossisk.
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Those maps look great RockinHarry, please keep up the good work in CMRT!
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RockinHarry, those mods look pretty great, keep up the good work.
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...if it makes you feel any better, the AI has a far worse time on that map.
Dunno, the AI seems to be doing pretty well against me!
That said, I think something needs to be done before the engine moves to Stalingrad. While I totally understand about the variable condition of the various walls, etc., I think players will need a better idea about where their pixeltroopen will and won't go.
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Thanks for the tips guys, especially RockinHarry.
One more question--it seems that when I want a squad to pop smoke, I can't aim it at all--they will only pop it about 20 meters directly in front of their current position/facing. Is that right, or am I missing something?
East Front literature!
in Combat Mission Red Thunder
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I bought it, I think on your recommendation, but haven't read it yet.
Also, I just saw this upcoming Osprey title on Amazon--is anyone familiar with this author's work? Generally I'm not a big fan of Osprey's titles other than for their color plates, but I've never seen this series before.
German Infantryman vs Soviet Rifleman (Combat)
David Campbell
http://www.amazon.com/German-Infantryman-Soviet-Rifleman-Combat/dp/1472803248/ref=pd_rhf_dp_s_cp_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1DYS1W6WQZ7BC6E6FFR6