Lacky

Don't want to climb too far out on this limb, but doesn't the Püppchen go against standard German infantry tactics? I was under the impression that the German infantry were trained to counter attack at a moments notice. The shrek's and faust's allow for rapid maneuvering, whereas a Püppchen would drastically reduce maneuvering and tactical response speed. Perhaps I was reading too much between the lines in the Rommel Papers. *snic*

I don't know where the gunner's sight is located. Yet sighting is direct line, line of sight. It goes about the call of this game to determine the relative position of gun sights. The main gun will always be elevated at or above the LOS of the guns sights while firing in direct fire mode. The shell abides by gravity, the sights do not. Another poster just had his Wespe knock itself out by firing into a building... Sure we can call it the fog of war, or whatever proverbial saying that comes to mind. However, the fact of the matter is we have armor shooting HE rounds that are taking themselves out!

Thank you for the explanation of parallax effect. The result would entail the gunner to view below the direct line (plane) from the sights to target. In essence, the gunner is looking below the horizon while the barrel is elevated near or above the horizon for the trajectory. It wouldn't allow the gunner to see over the hill. As a matter of fact, the gunner would be staring dab into the side of the hill when he triggered the main gun to fire. That's not good. Not good at all! I still feel this is a bug. It seems the game mechanics allow for 'tracking after LOS is invalid.' [This message has been edited by Lacky (edited 11-25-2000).]

Tanaka, here are your answers. 1) The M18 had LOS to the top floor of the building occupied by enemy infantry. It could not trace LOS to the bottom floor during the turn before (I checked). I didn't want to issue hunt command to the M18 due to enemy armor nearby. I issue direct fire orders to fire the main gun at the enemy infantry. 2) Daytime, Clear Skies 3) I "guess" the gunner could miss. The trajectory from barrel is rather flat and straight at this range for a 76mm. The Gunner could not visibly see the enemy infantry moving down stairs. The gunner indirectly fired WITH a hill directly in front of him. If I was the gunner... I'd make sure I cleared that hill! 4) The M18 was stationary. I'm not sure what parallax effect is. There's a process with targeting, which might be causing this bug. The game checks LOS, then 'attacks.' Perhaps the game checked LOS, returned true, tracked the target (target is moving, thus requiring barrel suppression), then fires upon acquisition even though the shot might no longer be true. Ergo, the shot lands directly in the face of my M18 (which isn't good!)

Perhaps this needs to be addressed. The shot from my Hellcat to target was < 200 meters. That's a flat trajectory shot. The gunner wouldn't take a shot through the side of a hill hoping his HE round 'passing through' the hill *lol* Tank hunters are suppose to maximize use of terrain. With this bug in place, it's dangerous business. What if your PBEM opponent notices one of your vehicles take a shot like this and intentionally runs their infantry to the bottom floor for safety? Poof, infantry is safe and tank knocks itself out! *hahah*

While playing the computer, I had one of my Hellcats knock itself out. It was partially hull downed and firing at enemy infantry on the top floor of a building. The infantry broke morale and started to flee. It fled downstairs. My Hellcat continued tracking the enemy infantry, although it no longer had a true LOS to the target (due to elevation and being hulled down). The hellcat fired anyway, even without the LOS. The round landed approximately 15 meters dead ahead into the hillside. I couldn't believe it. I checked my Hellcat's kill. Listed in the kill column: 1 M18 Hellcast Destroyed Hrm.... why would an HE round knock out a hellcat at 15 meters? And why would the Hellcat fire into the hill directly in front of it? The Gunner is tracking the target, too. My Hellcat was unbuttoned.

Hot pink I think it would befitting

Thanks for the update and all the hard work.

I'm all ears. *Plugs his microphone in jack and prepares to mock his opponent*

I recently patched. But the first menu screen, on the bottom right, states version 1.01. Is this in error?

I registered. Hit post new topic instead of Reply [This message has been edited by Lacky (edited 11-13-2000).]

I have a distaste for Usenet. Are there any good locations (boards) where I can find an opponent?

Thanks for the reply. I asked my (stupid?) question because of a VERY strange event that took place. One of my Tigers was tracking a Firefly. The Firefly hid behind some bocage and my Tiger lost acquisition. 8 seconds later the Firefly lights the acquisition (targeting) line on my tiger from what appeared to be behind the bocage. Needless to say, my tiger was toast at 200m. The Firefly wasn't near the corner of the bocage. I surmise the Firefly drove into the bocage a meter or two so it could take a pop shot at my Tiger. Alas [This message has been edited by Lacky (edited 11-12-2000).]

allowed to fire while in bocage?