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  1. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mike721:

    Jeff Heidman,

    You make some good points, particularly about the radios. My point was simply that the "myth" that the Germans were initially successful due to their superior equipment is false. They were successful due to their tactics and training as well as their attitude towards training NCOs. someone previously had mentioned that he was tired of the "myth" of superior German training. I was just addressing that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The myth is not superior training.

    It's the myth that the Germans are vastly superior. They are not. It is easy to beat up and look superior to Denmark, Poland, Yugoslavia, Greece, et al., as they were "backwards" when it came to military implementation.

    The "great" German military successes were against these noble, yet very weak nations. They are not "great" except in the minds of the perpetuators of the myth. If Germany beat the U.S. or U.S.S.R, the proof would then be unequivocal.

    I don't think anyone (at least not me) is taking a good, sound, military idea away. However, a better military doctrine is to take the good idea, modify it to your advantages, and use it. Rather like the Boyd Cycle… keeping your opponent off-balance. The U.S. did that, and the U.S.S.R did that as well. They adapted to the situation, while the German didn't. A good military tactic, is the ability to adapt.

    Germany did not.

  2. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pritzl:

    Dr. Brian, Why do you think that many of the German army's training methods, and tactics are emulated today by military forces such as the United States?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I didn't say that ... so you're putting words, or ideas, into me that are not true.

    The ORIGINAL question was the "best" soldier. Just because tactics emenated from a nation, doesn't make them the best at it.

    Oh, and for everyone else blaming Hitler for the Germans losing the war, that's B.S. Please, stop with the excuses already. It perpetuates the myth.

  3. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KiwiJoe:

    Rifle grenade:

    60mm@0

    30mm@60

    Bakooza:

    90mm@0

    77mm@30

    45mm@60

    PIAT:

    93mm@0

    80mm@30

    46mm@60

    FAUST:

    215mm@0

    178mm@30

    114mm@60

    Panzerscherck:

    170mm@0

    145mm@30

    85mm@60

    Comes from Chris Hare's excellent Unit Stats containing everything about everything in CM.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Now, that is a helpful, and comprehensive list! :cool: Thanks again!

  4. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abbott:

    Dr. Brian,

    Your ideas on the German Military in World War II are always a bit over shadowed by your personal feelings. I recognize your many excellent contributions to this forum and do try and understand the why of your bias.

    Nevertheless with personal feelings aside and a military perspective I heartily disagree with your claim that the German Military’s excellence in battle is myth. Man for man the German soldiers were a match for any countries military.

    [ 05-01-2001: Message edited by: Abbott ]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    There are no personal feelings involved here. This is simple logic, and facts. I can not see the logic of the German soldier as being "superior" than the Soviet, US, or UK fighter.

    All the facts keep pointing to the contrary. The myth lives on, because for the first time in history, the losers (Germans) got to write the history (due to the Cold War).

    Give it time.

  5. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abbott:

    Let us not forget the German troops. One of the finest fighting forces to have ever been fielded in any war.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Oh boy .... the myth lives on ... and besides. They beat up on minor powers. When push came to shove, they got their butt kicked.

  6. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jarmo:

    Umm.. I don't have the game right here, but you can get

    the Zook and schreck values by hitting enter. :rolleyes:

    I'd like to know the Faust stats myself..<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    E-gad! That's right! I forgot about the baz and schrek values can be obtained by hinter enter. I guess I was thinking about the PF, and the zook and shreck got tagged along.

    Anyone know about the PF?

  7. Originally posted by Gyrene:

    What's the point? That scenario would probably take a full day and an ulcer to play with ASL. The most amazing thing is that I had fun! No looking at that @#$%^%$ ASL index for every little AFPh/PRC/DRM/FFNAM&FFMO/MPh/VCA take I had to decipher just to figure out if my squad can enter the building from the woods side while eating a sandwich.

    BLASPHEMER!!!!!

    ASL Rocks.... and there is nothing like playing a face to face game like it. SOrry you hate ASL, and yes, I like CM too, but, consider the ASL Gods have now cursed you, well, don't enter any ASL tourneys... you'll go O-for.

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    God Bless Chesty Puller, Wherever He Is!

  8. Originally posted by Tiger:

    Panzerfausts are broken. If you had instead ran your men to within 10-15m of the shermans they would have fired instantly within this short range.

    Of course with the quick-spotting buttoned tanks in CMBO your men would likely have been cut up by the tanks. Whether intentionally broken like this by BTS is not clear. In the demo troops (regs) with PFs would fire them if something came within range, even though they weren't very accurate. If the pf30/60/100 have a combat range of 30/60/100, the troops should fire out to that range if you order them to do so, even with reduced accuracy. I'd rather them be modelled realistically than have to run up to the "now I can fire" 10-15 meter range.

    Instruction booklet for the Panzerfaust 60m :

    pfbooklet.jpg

    Die Panzerfaust ist Deine Pak! Du kannst mit ihr jeden Panzer bis auf Entfernungen von 80 m abschießen. Lies Dir Merkblatt richtig durch, dann kann Dir, wenn es darauf ankommt, nichts passieren.

    And now a picture of the warhead and sites for a Panzerfaust 60m:

    pf60sites.jpg

    Note the # above "60" marked on the sites. There's also one other noteworthy feature about the sites. Can anyone figue it out? Note that the opening for the "60" range is much larger than that for the "80" range and the "20" range. I argue that range of 60 is the most effective range for this weapon, hence the weapon model designations denote the most effective range, not the maximum range. The instruction booklet for the PF 100m notes 150m, and the sites go up to 150m as well. Kind of brings into question this non-sense that the range of these weapons was 3/4 of the weapon model's designation of 30/60/100.

    [This message has been edited by Tiger (edited 03-23-2001).]

    Tiger,

    Awesome. Good catch!

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    God Bless Chesty Puller, Wherever He Is!

  9. Originally posted by Skipper:

    Same style extermination program as in Belorussia, Poland, Russia and Ukraine. Incidentally, all these were the places where there was a real large scale partisan movement. I don't think arguing who among these suffered more makes any sense.

    Then you can't make statements about who suffered most. That's asking for debate and you're trying to hedge or quantify sensless acts. Just a different perspective.

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    God Bless Chesty Puller, Wherever He Is!

  10. Originally posted by Martin Cracauer:

    As for the "the" Ukraine, in German language you have the title for mountains, rivers and island groups (but not islands) and for some reason sometimes such a title is prefixed to some (but few) landscapes, where a landscape may extend to a whole country. If there's interest I could ask a friend of mine who is a teacher for German language.

    Ukraine is not a "lanscape" or river. It is a country. However, if you must, there is nothing wrong with saying "the Germany" either.

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    I'll repost the article later for everyone.

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    Doc

    God Bless Chesty Puller, Wherever He Is!

  11. Originally posted by ParaBellum:

    Later in the course of the war more than 200000 men from Lithunia, Esthonia, the Ukraine and ....

    It is not called "the Ukraine." It is called Ukraine. We don't say "the Germany," "the Italy," or "the Holland." I'll gladly post a small article on the incorrect development and usage of "the Ukraine" if there is interest. smile.gif

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    God Bless Chesty Puller, Wherever He Is!

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