Very funny i should read this post after the 'epic' battle i played last night. Defending the village of Chambois with more panzers than i knew what to do with... after all the fire and brimstone had settled i had 21 vehicles knoched out whilst watching, literally, a pile of 28 poilsh shermans and halftracks in smolders.. Then i thought... damn, all those ambush spots i had planned accordingly didnt really work out the way they were suppose to. I guess what im saying is that I see your point... even if you win.. you almost certainly have a heavy toll to attribute to your victory. I believe that is how it really was too.. Making the transition from Close Combat to CM is very hard... there are no missions where you can just hide in the bushes and ambush a squad with a tank at close range and laugh as they go down like bowling pins.. There is waaay more thought and calculating involved here.. which really draws the player in even more... I too actually get peeved when i see a tank get knocked out.. even when i see a squad get reduced by a unit!! i probably would have been a very bad leader in war (probably an even more-cautious Montgomery . The fact is, its a game to have fun with.. so go ahead and throw those squads out head-first.. some sacrifices do yield results. Im just thankful that theres finally a game where we are affected by the 'drama' of battle... oh well.. to each his own.. my 2 sence 4 the day