Schrullenhaft, thanks for all the help my driver number is 4.12.01.1080. So that means that it is the latest driver right? Oh well I found a good deal on a Voodoo 3 3000, I will buy it very soon. And I will get the latest drivers from 3dfx correct? Again thanks, this new card should hopefuly help the fog and night graphics, as well as overall graphic quality,I hope. Its nice to find someone with a good computer background, something hard to find a some retail stores.