Tankgirl

I'm sure from where you're sitting that's exactly what it looked like. However they were shut down before we could really explore them and I, and other both pro and con, could respond. However it looks like we'll be able to take it to other forms etc. like i said above so it's not a huge deal in the end. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Look I think there are two things that need to be addressed here. 1. Censorship certainly occurs here. I mean, don't delude yourself. However it's legal and this is the prerogative of BTS. As i said, I don't like it, but I understand why they do it, even if I disagree. 2. There are other forms where these discussions can take place, uncensored, and freely and openly on the internet. So we are not being particularly harmed in our free speech by it being curtailed here. They just want to keep to issues regarding the game - to help customers and to encourage business. We all understand that. That serious historical discussion et al is not allowed here is regrettable, and i have strong views on it, but it's not the end of the world. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

I see that several threads I was participating in were locked by Mad(big brother)Matt before i could respond at length to some of the comments or queries about facts and sources etc. One particularly humorous thread, Madmatt joined in then locked it down. But that's his prerogative here. I realized this if for discussion the details of the game, and that's fine - so no hard feelings. It's just a shame since they were basically civil discussions on interesting and somewhat related bits of history. So if anyone wants to continue this in a non-censored more democratic form, this is fine by me. On the news groups or even in pvt. e-mail. P.S. I don't agree with locking them down, but i understand Madmatt has to keep in in the interests of his company and doesn't want customers feathers ruffled so no hard feelings, and keep up the fun games. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Yes, they were American born citizens who were interned by their government for being ethnically Japanese. He was shot down in a completely immoral in illegal bombing campaign in a illegitimate war. In any event, lots of Vietnamese were subject to summery execution, one of which was famously photographed. To ask were was "our", "Hanoi Hilton" is the height of ignorance on U.S. war crimes. Thousands of civilians were killed and executed. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Yeah, he was ashamed. Incidentally, did Johnson and McNamara et Al ever express shame of the Gulf of Tonkin? Ha ha. "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. " --George Orwell

Compared what happened to the Vietnamese he was pampered. And he looks fine to me. He was treated better than say, American born Japanese who were interned during WW2. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

I saw a documentary on the making of Das Boot, it seems like that would be Grog approved. (assuming Grog is a stickler for accuracy and detail) ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Yeah, I heard that British filmmakers where originally going to make it British Ships being attacked. But then they decided that it was a bad idea cause a British audience would remember know how Hawaii as stolen from it's inhabitants and the irony would work against them. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

No, just the ones that make and enjoy such jingoistic garbage. Although that's not really fair, given the general level of indoctrination. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Could someone explain Diablo 2 to me?! I DLed the demo, and it's fun enough at one level, but there doesn't seem to be much skill. You just kill and heal and be a little careful and eventually you get though it. At least the demo was like that. There seems to be very little challenge...it the full version different? P.S. Since they are sold out of CM till the end of Feb. What do people recommend for games to get. My main thing is i like to play over the internet with others. PBEM or live. I'm thinking about Risk 2 or Call to Power (older i know). I have a Mac. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

I'll do anything for a copy!! Well ok, not anything, but I'll pay someone for one. ------------------ "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Re the trailer:Another heap of steaming red, white and blue American bull****!

Jesus, I just found out that they won't have any available until the end of February. Is there any place that they sell them in the stores? I understand that there isn't...oh well maybe I'll get Risk 2 instead. But I'll prolly get it later. P.S. How come they don't make those strategy games for the Mac, like Road to Moscow? --- "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm

Ha ha, I'm sure they said that about Poland in '39. Funny the world didn't see it Mr. Eban's way re: UN 242 --- "Snowpants are sexy!" http://www.geocities.com/wildhippychik/whp.htm