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Berlichtingen, Not meaning to nitpick here, but I found yur last comment interesting. This was regarding Germans being trained to shoot accurately on the move. It has always been my understanding that the Germans had a very strict tactical doctrine that stressed shooting only while stationary. I have seen US vets say things the equivalent of that the only area that US tankers had an advantage in was shooting on the move. Perhaps the German doctrine evolved as the war went on, moving toward a doctrine that forbad shooting on the move since it may have wasted scarce ammo. But your comment was the first I have ever seen intimating that the Germans would fire on the move. Just found it interesting.

Hi guys, First time poster here, so first order of business is to congratulate, and thank, BTS for their outstanding accomplishments thus far regarding this groundbreaking game. I just played CE for the first time last night. Playing as the Germans, I got a bitter taste of the Shermans. I setup my forces to engineer a kill zone that should have been quite successful as the AI sent its M4s straight into it. Unfortunately, I lost all three of my Stugs with only one M4 to show for their efforts. Maddening thing was that all three were in scattered trees in what I thought were very good ambush positions (two on the reverse slope of the ridge with right flanks protected by the hill and woods and the other in a stand of trees middle edge of the map near where the Germans start). In fact, each Stug was taken in out in single engagements with Shermans that had just driven onto the plateau next to the church. In each engagement, the Shermans got off the first shots and in fact one got off two before the Stug it was targeting responded, this despite the Stugs being partially hidden in ambush positions. I lost two stugs in one turn, both taken out by the same Sherman sitting nicely silhouetted out in the open. My question is this: Do I attribute this to dumb luck, or are there other factors involved? The one thing that sticks in my mind is that the two stugs positioned behind the hill and woods were canted at a slight angle because of the slope of the hill. Would this angle result in accuracy problems for their gunners (as I assume it could in real life)? If so, lesson learned and I give a nod to the designers to take this into account. Oh well, when I get home tonight I am going to replay the scenario with the exact same setup to see if I get the same results. Thanks again BTS, I eagerly await the release of this sleep-depriver.