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  1. Originally posted by uhu:

    Some other minor "bug": i don't know, how it is completely in the game, but it is not almost correct, when Tigers and Panthers avaible were.

    -Tigers: from 44.july-44.sept (some saw action at the battle of Torda in sept)

    -Panthers: from 44.sept-44.febr.

    Uhu,

    I think there is a typo in what you posted about the Panther dates, as they seem to be reversed or something. When should the Panther be available to the Hungarians?

    Thanks,

    Charles

    [ January 03, 2003, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: Battlefront.com ]

  2. Originally posted by Captain Wacky:

    Whole issue should never comes up in first place! BTS screwing on Euro customers. That is not the way to treat Euro customers, I know, I went to business school. MadMatt and BTS all are HYBRIS.

    First we have Waffel Grenadiers, now .pdf manual. Now we pay for other manual. Steve you are feeling superior. Attack my positions and not my person. BTS is going quantity over quality, I should know.

    All true-blue wargamers know the most important part of game is the manual. More important that game itself. HYBRIS! Steve things he is a demigod. Go away BTS fanboys!

    Mmmmmmmm...waffel grenadiers :D

    This is the funniest thing I've seen all week!

    :D

    Charles

  3. Redwolf:

    It would be nice to get a definitite statement from CDV on this, I assume they already have other games protected with whatever they plan to do to CMBB.
    Yes, they copy protect all their products. Including a nice little game called Combat Mission - Beyond Overlord smile.gif which has been on the market in Europe now for almost a year. See Munter's first hand account.

    Treeburst, you are correct about that being the purpose. However, my understanding is that the CD must be present only when the game is launched since it decrypts from the CD itself. But after that, there should be no problem. Think about it logically... the protection is there to ensure that a CD is used, which is what happens during boot up, so what is gained by checking during run time? The only thing that would eliminate is a LAN party using one legit copy to start up two games, which is such a minor concern I doubt they would even think of that being a problem.

    Michael,

    Steve, why don't you just post this information to a thread and leave it as the top thread on the board?
    I already did that before. It doesn't work. When someone wants to make a mountain out of molehill, pretty much nothing we can do will avert it.

    Steve

  4. I think I can answer this one...

    One of these limitations being the CD itself must remain in the drive at all times while the program is being run?
    I am pretty sure that the copy protection only checks the game during the initial boot proceedure. After that it is like any other CD. Since Combat Mission doesn't look to the CD for information at all (i.e. everything should be on the hard drive), I don't think there will be any problem with the removal of the CD after the game is booted.

    Also keep in mind that this is not "CDV's" copy protection software. They are using a product called SafeDisk, which is rapidly becoming a standard for protecting software. If there are problems with this software the only fault CDV has is that they use it, not that CDV itself screwed things up.

    Steve

  5. I gotta say BTS you could use a better front man than Matt... he is an arrogant ass
    Me thinks BTS could use better customers... 'cause some of them really stretch that $45 purchase price to include some sort of ownership of our souls.

    Look... take your pick. For every minute that one of us spends answering questions that probably don't even need to be asked or answered, something gets cut from CMBB's release. Yes folks, we do not have unlimited time to spend chit chatting at the moment. And yes folks, Madmatt does not sit around all day twiddling his thumbs waiting on pins and needles for something to do. After the game is released we will have more time for sure, but right now there is a push and a shove. If you shove, something gets pushed.

    To give you guys an idea, if I spend one hour of my time on this forum I either sleep only 4 hours insted of 5, or an entire vehicle model does not make it into the game.

    Sorry if some people don't understand the real world that surrounds them, but we do not revolve around the whims and desires of each individual customer. So if Matt says he doesn't have time to chit chat with you, perhaps you might keep in mind there is a tiny bit of a reason for it, and it is called Combat Mission - Barbarossa to Berlin.

    Steve

  6. You sure you will get it all on one CD? Heck, my current CMBO bmp folder is 1.6 Gig in size!
    No hybrid CD and compressed. Yeah, we'll fit everything on there, but only just barely smile.gif

    BTW, we feel that many Modders go a bit overboard with the texture resolution. Over a certain size there is no significant improvement in quality but a HUGE increase in file size and VRAM footprint. Ours are much higher res than CMBO, but not as big as some of the mods we have seen. Not that these Modders will ever admit that bigger isn't necessarily better ;)

    Steve

  7. Hi guys,

    Glad you like the new stuff! Some quick answers:

    1. Turan wasn't shown because it was to be the next bone. Guess that means we don't have to throw another one soon smile.gif

    2. No, the wheat is fixed and does not get crushed as vehicles drive over them. That would be pretty tough to do graphically, which I am sure will be evident why when you see the game for real.

    3. Yes, the texturing of all these vehicles has been, and still is, a huge time sink. Dan and myself, along with a couple of hand picked Modders, have been slaving away on them for months now. With the list as long as it is... well... we're trying to get them all done before you guys faint dead away from the long wait smile.gif

    4. The Panther D (early) is the only vehicle with an asymetrical turret side. In general asymetrical turret sides are a huge waste of valuable CD space (which is a SERIOUS concern for CMBB) and VRAM. But the Panther D (early) left us little choice due to the side hatch which was removed when the turret was reconfigured. However, there are asymetrical hull and turret details in nearly all models. The difference is that these details are not part of a general surface, but rather something that sits on top of it (like a tool box or something).

    5. Yes, Modders are going to have their work cut out for themselves smile.gif Not only are the textures highres this time, but there are soooooo many vehicles to choose from. We have also taken the extra effort to make the vast and overwhelming majority of the textures "self contained". In CMBO we shared a lot of textures inbetween models when possible so as to save on VRAM. That means you could have 3 StuGs all sharing 90% of the same textures. In CMBB we have something like 9 StuGs each with its own unique texture assignments. We might duplicate some of the artwork to save on time, but the "slots" themselves are totally seperate and can be modded independent of other vehicles.

    OK, now I go back to work!

    Steve

  8. Scipio,

    Why not calling the Allies in CM:BO Confederated States and Imperial Stormtroopers? Why not remove all Soviet flags from the game, too? The Soviet regime killed more people the the Nazi regime.
    Why? Because your government was at least particular about which nasty bunch of people couldn't be called their historical names. If the German laws said we couldn't how the Soviet Hammer and Sickle, guess what wouldn't be in the CDV version?

    ince you can not grasp the simple concept that this is outside of our control (and CDVs), and apparently are the only one still wanting to argue for the sake of ticking people off, I am closing up this thread.

    Steve

  9. Appreciate the thoughts. I think that is a pretty good summation, except for this part:

    I also don´t tink that BFC, in their wildest dreams, could have anticipated this reaction, they´ve gotten, from some of us!
    Tsk tsk... you think we do not know our audience better than we do our own wives? For shame sir smile.gif

    We did anticipate this reaction. We also expected it would be directed at us personally and emotionally. We also expected it to be a minority position. But the day we let our business decisions be swayed by emotionally charged minority opinions is the day we should just pack it in. Businesses fail quickest when they lose sight of the Big Picture.

    As it is, we don't like the compromise either. But taken along with the other possible options and concessions that CDV did grant us, this is a tiny consideration. Even for our European customers.

    We would like to retain the direct sales relationship with our European customers. Honestly, there is nothing we would like more. We even have a warehouse in Ireland that was all set up to handle the big release.

    The CDV deal makes much more sense from a business standpoint as well as a European customer standpoint. For every one bummed out direct CMBO customer there are probably 10 people buying CMBB that would NEVER have even heard of it had we not partnered with CDV. So wouldn't it be rather selfish as well as foolish (from a business standpoint) to write all those people off for the sake of some emotional responses from a minority of a minority?

    Unfortunately, overlapping sales territory is simply "not done" in the software industry. At least not in my 9 years of experience in it. This creates competition with oneself and that is never a good thing.

    As I said, we will see what we can do about the censorship issue, but as far as we can tell nothing is going to change. As far as us selling a PC version (as opposed to the Mac version) into Europe directly, that is absolutely not going to happen. At least not for CMBB. Who knows what the future holds?

    Steve

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