cyrano01 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Any thoughts on this Me 110 that I encountered during the Battle Of Britain campaign? I can't really figure out how he managed to get a performance of 5. I believe the basic performance of a 110 is 4 and I can't see any skills that would get him an extra 1 or am I missing something blindingly obvious? [ December 29, 2005, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: cyrano01 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf KERENSKY Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 low altitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I'm not sure why it would be showing a performance of 5. Did it actually have that throughout the mission, or was it just a glitch on the preview screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I was thinking it might be due to the Starting Energy skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I thought that might be the case as well, but looking at the code, I don't think that would do it. I tried to recreate the problem by starting a Battle of Britain campaign and choosing the same pilots for a particular region. The performance correctly showed 4. However, the opposing pilots were not the same ones shown in the above screen shot. I don't know why that would make a difference, but maybe there's something weird going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrano01 Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 For what it is worth I have seen at least one other, similar, case where a 110 with High Performance was showing a performance of 6 when I felt it should have been 5. Didn't get a screenshot though. Brian - The 5 performance value showed throughout the game and, as I found to my cost, the 110 was drawing up to 5 cards in his hand. Kerensky, I may have this wrong but I thought altitude affected Horsepower not performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrano01 Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Just kicked off another Battle Of Britain campaign to see if I could reproduce the problem and first battle out of the hat I got the following. The 110 is showing a performance of 6. As far as I can see it should be 5 (4 plus one for high performance). These cunning Luftwaffe types will stop at nothing to defeat me. If it is at all helpful the campaign is under my account (cyrano01) on the server, it is the only BOB campaign at turn 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Ok. I'll take a look. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Maybe the computer is taking into account the modification to starting cards due to starting altitude? Based on the P=6 and HP=4, and its skills, it looks like this 110 is starting at Low altitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrano01 Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Dan - I thought that the altitude only affected Horsepower and not Performance. Certainly the paragraph on altitude on page 6 of the PDF manual suggests that should be the case or was that what you were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 You're right, in general it only affects Horsepower. But your initial selected altitude adds to, or subtracts from, the number of initial cards you are dealt. Notice when you pull down on the starting altitude menu it shows a card modifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 I thought altitude did not affect overall performance. Sure it affects HP and the number of cards you start the game with on your first turn, but in my reading of the manual it doesn't appear that it's supposed to alter the performance. I thought it was impossible for a 110 to have a Performance greater than 5.(4 start, plus 1 for High Performance). Are cyrano01 and I missing something? Speaking for myself, I know I miss obvious things sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 There is a wingman skill which also adds +1 to the leader's performance, but I don't think that is what was happening in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Are you refering to Starting Energy, Brian? I've never had that WM Skill. I know Leader Advice gives the Leader an extra card each turn but it doesn't change his performance does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 The name of the wingman skill is "Extra Energy". It gives the leader a +1 Performance. "Starting Energy" is a leader skill that gives the leader 1 extra card in his starting hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Lol - that's what I was trying to think of - I am at work and am trying to pull this from memory. You do have to admit - I was close to being right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 What?! They don't let you play at work?! Outrageous! I'd quit and get a new job if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Your starting altitude does not change your Performance rating, but it modifies the number of cards you start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrano01 Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 I knew about the number of starting cards but these 110s do seem to be getting a game long 'uplift' here. I wouldn't mind but they persist in shooting down my Hurricanes and are, for a non-US fighter, built like a brick s**t-house Anyway, I'll leave it in Brian's capable hands, shout if I can provide any more diagnostic information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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