tornado Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that if an opposing pilot has the "draw extra card" ability that they seem to get more draws than they should? I'll give you an example that has happened to me in Single mission and campaign mode- against a pilot with draw extra cards x 3, I KNOW the pilot was able to draw an extra card no less than 5 times. I've been against pilots with draw extra card (with no multiplier) and they have been able to draw at least 3 extra cards. I know this isn't because their wingman has Anticaption (or any other ability) becasue the draws come in the middle or toward the end of their turn. This occurs with both the Leader and Wingman. This has happened only when I play the system, it has never happened when I play a "live" opponent. Am I crazy? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Yes it's been noted a couple of times befoer - see http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=35;t=000226#000003 Apparently it's all an illusion!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Yeah, but it seems to me that what tornado is seeing has just started to occur recently. I too, am seeing an unexplained number of cards being drawn by the computer opponent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 I didn't even have the game in October - and seeing as how the original posting was on October 6, how would I know this? But thank you for letting me know the problem was addressed. I'll have to see if the problem only occurs when I am flying escort missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I didn't think you'd have known it - hence I posted the link so you could read it :confused: I'm also amazed by the number of cards teh computer can sometimes get - I'll sometimes attack a leader with a wingman, maybe a couple of shooting cards and then a manouvre - all of them wil lbe countered and after that it often seems he has have more cards then when he started!! :eek: :eek: At the level most of my RAF pilots are operating the AI usually gets 1/ quick reflexes - draw an extra card every time targeted - so 1 for the wingman, and another when the leader attacks him 2/ several draw an extra card's - usually draw 1 in each attack again 3/ Evasive - draw an extra card if I do get him at a disadvantage So that's a potential for <big><big>6</big></big> extra cards from 2 attacks, and he'll probably start with 8 or 9........it gets quite monotonous after a while!! I do hope they introduce the idea for showing which skills are being used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Tornado, there is a search function on the forums. Stalin was actually very civil about it. On other areas people bite peoples head off for not "searching" before posting. Then these same people post crap on the Peng threads.... I think the draw cards the computer gets may not count them as depleted unless they use them.(My opinion) Brian is on a well deserved vacation so you will have to wait for him to comment. -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 After re-reading the discussion that Stalin mentioned it appears that it still doesn't explain how a pilot with draw extra card x 3 can draw between 4 to 8 extra cards in the course of a game. Anyone besides Strider and me experiencing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 And thank you both for being civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 No problem as I said - apparently it's all an illusion. Bartbet & Dan are the game designer & progtrammer, and in the thread I referred to they reckon that you're seeing other skills at work rather than "draw an extra card" - that's what I was trying to show in my example above - there are other skills that give extra cards. I confess to wondering about it too - I get lots of extra cards drawn against my high level pilots!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I just tried 2vs2 fighter game with bots, and 'watched' when and why the AI was drawing cards. This is with my U.S. pilots who are getting on up in levels, and I think I do see the "illusion" The AI did seem to play cards per his abilities such as Quick Reflexes and such. Each time I saw a card drawn aginst the U.S. bot, I checked the screen showing the abilities, and (for the most part) each time I was able to confirm the draw was legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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