Rouge Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Demoss u say that the boarder wasnt that close however during the winter war of 1939-1940 the fins pushed the russians right back to the city limits. although by the time of barberossa the tide was just turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouge Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Originally posted by Kuniworth: Your poems suck I dont give a ****No one is forceing you to listen to it, maybe if a few people agreed with you it may be an issue but until then shup up let them speak and dont be such a ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouge Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Originally posted by Kuniworth: Your poems suck I dont give a ****No one is forceing you to listen to it, maybe if a few people agreed with you it may be an issue but until then shup up let them speak and dont be such a ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_22 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Demoss u say that the boarder wasnt that close however during the winter war of 1939-1940 the fins pushed the russians right back to the city limits. although by the time of barberossa the tide was just turning. No, no and no. The finns were hard pressed to hold on during the end of the winter war, and the armistice was a relief. All in all the Winter War lasted 109 days, and then there was a period of "peace" and building up, until Barbarossa came, and the Finns got bombed. Then, Finland attacked (foolishly, some would say, but you don´t really bomb someone´s capital unless you have hostile intentions and it was pretty clear what Stalin´s intentions for Finland were) and reclaimed the areas lost in the Winter War (in the peace treaty), and pushed into Russian territory. At the end Mannerheim ordered the troops to halt the advance and dig in, rather than join in the siege of Leningrad and cut it off. Similarly, the Murmansk rail was NOT cut off (guess which rail was critical to the transportation of the lend-lease equipment?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_22 Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Demoss u say that the boarder wasnt that close however during the winter war of 1939-1940 the fins pushed the russians right back to the city limits. although by the time of barberossa the tide was just turning. No, no and no. The finns were hard pressed to hold on during the end of the winter war, and the armistice was a relief. All in all the Winter War lasted 109 days, and then there was a period of "peace" and building up, until Barbarossa came, and the Finns got bombed. Then, Finland attacked (foolishly, some would say, but you don´t really bomb someone´s capital unless you have hostile intentions and it was pretty clear what Stalin´s intentions for Finland were) and reclaimed the areas lost in the Winter War (in the peace treaty), and pushed into Russian territory. At the end Mannerheim ordered the troops to halt the advance and dig in, rather than join in the siege of Leningrad and cut it off. Similarly, the Murmansk rail was NOT cut off (guess which rail was critical to the transportation of the lend-lease equipment?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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