Welshwill Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 In my current PBEM I'm playing the Axis. I have been very careful during my campaign in the West, trying not to provoke the USSR to early (Random setting). The only two countries that I invaded other than Poland & France were The Low Countries & Denmark. My question is; Is the USSR destined to come into the war before a given date regardless of what the Axis do? The war readiness just kept climbing regardless of what I did or didn't do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John DiFool Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Originally posted by Welshwill: In my current PBEM I'm playing the Axis. I have been very careful during my campaign in the West, trying not to provoke the USSR to early (Random setting). The only two countries that I invaded other than Poland & France were The Low Countries & Denmark. My question is; Is the USSR destined to come into the war before a given date regardless of what the Axis do? The war readiness just kept climbing regardless of what I did or didn't do!It has something to do with the Poland garrison (put just a couple of corps over there and watch the USSR entry climb like mad). But I have had the Russkies pre-empt a DOW on me despite Poland being chock full of my units, which are about to attack him either way of course. If he does it will pork US Entry, so let him. Someone else pointed out that the Russian entry percentage eventually starts to skyrocket no matter what you do (circa early to mid '41). It can be at 55% one turn, but two turns later you will see the dreaded "Russia is preparing for war!" message... John DiFool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Invictus Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 The only pattern I have noticed is that if Germany attacks Sweden then America will almost immediately declare war. Russia is a little more difficult and the randomness can swing qite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arby Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Originally posted by Sol Invictus: The only pattern I have noticed is that if Germany attacks Sweden then America will almost immediately declare war. Russia is a little more difficult and the randomness can swing qite a bit.That depends entirely on when you do it. It will usually increase war readiness by about 10% for both countries. If you do it in mid-1940, you don't have anything to worry about. If you do it in August of 1941, it may put the US over the edge. As with comedy, timing is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Soldier Svejk Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Comrades, In the hints and tips thread, Harala added this reply to one of my questions on Russian DOW in random games: "One of the things the manual doesn't tell you is that the Soviets will declare war if the Eastern Front isn't properly garrisoned. I think I read here that that means at least 2 units in 1940 and 3 units in 1941. I know the former is correct; not sure of the latter." Seems to me worth repeating in this thread. Sounds like a really good thing to know :eek: Anyone else have input on Polish Garrison and Russian DOW? What constitues a "garrison?": units in cities? in Poland anywhere? in the hexes adjacent to the Russian border? Does it matter? Salute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
googabooga Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 svejk: as much as i would like to take credit for that but i think it may have been arby who said that. not me -antti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Soldier Svejk Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 My mistake It was Arby who made the point about the Polish garrison's effect on Russian DOW. Thanks for setting it straight Salute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloid Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 I was on a similar path... going into Sweden early(ish)... Russia seemed okay with it, but what really set them off was the entry of Rumania, Hungary, etc. After that, Russia is ready to go, and I've got the Wermacht spread all over the place... The US still doesn't seem to care about what's going on. It would be nice for the game to give some more input on consequences when you DOW someone. Live and learn... Aloid (still have not taken Sweden...) [ August 28, 2002, 02:33 AM: Message edited by: Aloid ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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