109 Gustav Posted April 20, 2000 Share Posted April 20, 2000 Does CM include the MG 38 machine gun, or just the '42? I believe both these weapons were used on the western front, and they were quite different, although used in similar ways. The MG 38 was mounted on both tripods and bipods for infantry support and as a lmg. Main difference with the 42 was the 38 fed off a clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted April 20, 2000 Share Posted April 20, 2000 IF you mean the MG 34 yes If you actually mean an MG 38 I've never heard of it but if it exists I'm sure others have ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 20, 2000 Share Posted April 20, 2000 Wasn't it the MP 38? Maybe I'm going crazy. ------------------ Visit my webpage! http://cm4mac.tripod.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109 Gustav Posted April 20, 2000 Author Share Posted April 20, 2000 OOPS! My mistake, the MG 34. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_PanzerLeader Posted April 20, 2000 Share Posted April 20, 2000 thre was an MP40 Colin that is allso known as a SCHMIESSER ------------------ SS_PanzerLeader.......out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaffertape Posted April 20, 2000 Share Posted April 20, 2000 There was the Walther P-38 pistol which superceded the Luger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonS Posted April 21, 2000 Share Posted April 21, 2000 MP38 approx equalls MP40. Visually they are the same, but with different production methods (and safety?) Relying on extensive research based on watching numerous war movies and reading many, many Commando comics, the Schmeiser was the standard smallarm of all German forces throughout WW2 Regards Jon ------------------ Ubique [This message has been edited by JonS (edited 04-20-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider Posted April 21, 2000 Share Posted April 21, 2000 p-08 = luger p-38 = suceeder of the luger mp-38 = german smg mp-40 = its successor known as schmeisser but the guy had nothing to do with it, mg34 - german machinegun mg42 - its successor except on vehicles where the mg34 was kept as mg ------------------ This is my rifle, this is my gun. This ones for killing, this ones a tasty alternative to turkey at christmas..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider Posted April 21, 2000 Share Posted April 21, 2000 actually, now that i think of it there was a chzeck mg38 i think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Servo Posted April 21, 2000 Share Posted April 21, 2000 You guys forgot the MP43 and it's final version the MP44, thought it wasn't seen on the west front til late in the war, I hear they were commen on the east front. One of the germans we fought against at the last even had one of those... he was kicking our asses w/ it.. well the russians, us para's are smart, we stayed in the woods and let them come to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted April 22, 2000 Share Posted April 22, 2000 Ok, here goes... MP38 and MP40 are functionally the same so far as performance is concerend. The two big differences between the two was the manufacturing process (MP40s were made of stamped parts) and a bolt "safety". Basically with an MP38 you could get the bolt handle snagged and cause the gun to go off. The work around was a small leather strip that was hooked onto the bolt handle so as to keep it from being cocked. And the term "Schmeiser" is totally incorrect, though it is still printed in lots of source materials. Hugo Schmeiser had NOTHING to do with the development of the MP38/40, though was the brains behind lots of other stuff including the MP43/44. There are no MG34s in CM except on certain AFVs (tanks for the most part). But this point in the war the old "Spandau" MGs were all replaced by MG42s. Check out the SS squads in LD. They have some MP44s. A fantastic weapon, they started showing up in significant numbers with "elite" units in mid 1944. Although the Germans produced over 400,000 of these, less than a 1/3 ever made it into combat. And that is why I have a deactivated one hanging on my wall for little money Tons of these are still in their original crates in Germany as the Allies didn't do much with them after the war. And Spider wins a prize for trivial knowledge Yes, the MG 38(t) was a 15mm AA machinegun that the Germans used to a limited degree after they took over Czechoslovakia. Prodcution continued throughout the war, but they were used as light anti-aircraft weapons. The MG 37(t) was a multi purpose MG based on the 7.92mm round and was used by front line German forces, particullarly earlier Waffen SS units who found it difficult to get a hold of MG34s and other standard German weapons. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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