minmax Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Hey Gang, Anyone know how fast an M-1 burns fuel? figure sitting waiting for contact non combat movement combat movement I am imposing as realistic a criteria on my students as possible in their war games and don't have those consumption figures Also any resources on fuel use for Company (Armor, Mech Inf) Team Battalion I will finish with this observation, Kids like Generals end up following typical patterns. Only those who study their enemy enjoy success. The proof is that 2 young ladies in the class spent a lot of time studying the replays of their opponents battles and they Creamed the best team in the end of the term tournament Major, thanks for this incredible teaching tool hopefully some of my little baboons will purchase TacOps, matter of fact if I end up teaching military history and stratagems at the community college I making the purchase of Tac Ops a required text. Thanks "Dammit girls should not be winning...Mr. Johnson I am pretty sure they are cheating. Well Frank I am pretty sure they are honestly kicking you skinny butt..." Hawk Ex 03-02 (Semi Final Round) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH TacOps Developer Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 >if I end up teaching military history and >stratagems at the community college I >making the purchase of Tac Ops a required text. Let me know if that happens and I'll see if I can get you a discount for a bulk order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minmax Posted August 5, 2003 Author Share Posted August 5, 2003 Thanks Major, Sure you have a deal. Thanks and have a great day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kammak Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 RE: M1 tank fuel consumption, AFIAK its a constant value regardless of speed. Sitting idle it burns the same amount as if it is moving at 40mph. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_42MDP Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Originally posted by Kammak: RE: M1 tank fuel consumption, AFIAK its a constant value regardless of speed. Sitting idle it burns the same amount as if it is moving at 40mph. I've heard that also. The turbine keeps the same RPM no matter how much horsepower is bein developed. During the 1st gulf war, on our 4 day offensive, my battalion maintained a steady 15 KPH speed the whole way. My Bradley stopped to refuel once, when we got down to a half tank of deisel. I recall stopping to let the tanks refuel at least 5 times, maybe as many as 7 times. It was a long time ago, I can't recall exactly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 Try to get a copy of US Army CGSC student text ST 101-6, Combat Service Support Battle Book. Chapter 4 is all logistics stuff. I tried to download an html version but it keeps crashing my browser. Combat Consumption Rates for Bulk Fuel (Gallon Per Hour (GPH)) Vehicle - Idle - Cross Country - Road M1A1 ---- 10.8 -- 56.60 ------- 44.64 M2/3 ----- 2.0 -- 26.58 ------- 18.79 M113 ----- 6.4 -- 18.00 ------- 8.60 M157 -----60-100 (Fog Oil) M88A1 ---- 2.0 -- 36.76 ------- 25.54 M9 ACE --- 1.42 - 12.35 ------- 9.26 D7F ------ 6.00 N/A N/A Class III Haul Vehicle Type for Heavy Divisions [unit] -- TPU -- HEMTT -- 5k Tanker Tank Bn --- 0 ------16 ----- 0 Mech Bn --- 0 ------ 8 ----- 0 FA Bn ----- 0 ------ 4 ----- 0 MI Bn ----- 2 ------ 0 ----- 0 Cav Sqd --- 0 ------16 ----- 0 ADA Bn ---- 4 ------ 9 ----- 0 Eng Bn ---- 0 ------14 ----- 0 FSB (X3)--- 3 ------ 0 ---- 11 MSB ----- 4 ----- 0 -----34 Atk Bn -----0 ----- 7 ----- 0 ASB ----- 12 ----- 12 ----- 6 Send me a privat email if you want my html file. Coyote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minmax Posted September 1, 2003 Author Share Posted September 1, 2003 Thanks Coyote, that has helped reign in my little horse people of the apocolypse. Now the most important team member is the logistics officer b/c he gets the trigger pullers the goods. I find if fascinating have avidly students want to learn when life and honor are part of the mix. Kids are actually reading up on how Hannibal, Napoleon, Rommel, and others did it to incorporate into their op-orders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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