rich4421972 Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 I have a question about the above-named unit. It is used in the Canadian scenario "Combat Team Dingman," an MTC where the BLUFOR attempts to track down a small belligerant nation and then exit 34% of the original force across the Eastern border. What does the "E" designate? For example, if it denotes "Engineer," then is this M113 just the same as any other? If the "E" denotes "electronic," doe this denote the presence of surveillance equipment or radar? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Rich 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 A lot of those special vehicles were requested by the Canadian army . They often cant perform the task they were build for in TACOPS At least thats what the major once said. examples are the ground radars and the recon vehicles like the coyote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH TacOps Developer Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 CA M113E/PNR... CA means Canadian. E means engineer. PNR means pioneer which is another word in some armies for engineer. The M113E/PNR in the real world has an earth moving blade on the front. In v3 this vehicle can only carry troops, the blade does not do anything. In v4 this vehicle can use the blade to breach obstacles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4421972 Posted June 30, 2002 Author Share Posted June 30, 2002 OK, I'll assume it is classified. I was playing Flight Commander 2 the other day (another abandoned battlefront game) and I noticed the presence of the f-18E and F-15E as options for multi-role fighters. Up here in Seattle, Boeing-McDonnell makes quite a big stir whenever one of these planes is sold to the Navy or Air Force because of their complex electronics. I asked the above question because I thought that the "E" in M113E was analogous to the "E" in EF-111, F-18E or F-15E (all electronic counter-measures platforms). Somehow it made sense to me that engineering units would be equipped with some electromnic stuff. Now I realize that a plane is not a tracked vehicle! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH TacOps Developer Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 >OK, I'll assume it is classified. Huh? There is no classified information in TacOps, not even in the military versions. All of the data items in TacOps are unconfirmed "notional" values that collectively produce plausible game results but individually they may or may not coincide exactly with real world values - for example, armor thickness and armor penetration values. [ June 30, 2002, 02:40 PM: Message edited by: MajorH ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4421972 Posted June 30, 2002 Author Share Posted June 30, 2002 Originally posted by MajorH: >OK, I'll assume it is classified. Huh? There is no classified information in TacOps, not even in the military versions. I must apologize for my lack of knowledge on this and other subjects. I know it must drive you guys crazy to hear my ingenuous questions. It takes alot of class to answer so copiously, as you all have done. I have learned so much since I first posted a message here long ago. I really appreciate your answers even if you feel like you are talking to a simpleton. I'll be glad to see the new dozer capabilities at work in the "new" M113 E/PNR! Thanks [ June 30, 2002, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: rich4421972 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 If any of you have access to TechTV (DirecTV carries it) you may want to see some of this Canadian hardware in a training environment. The program is called Tech of a Battlefield. It is 30 minutes long and documents an exericse with comments from the unit's Brigade Commander. You can find the show schedule on TechTV.com. Note that this is not the same segment as the regular feature Future Fighting Machines. FFM is mostly short video clips (sales demos?) with some chatty and uninformed comments by an off camera narrator. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorH TacOps Developer Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 > I know it must drive you guys crazy to hear my ingenuous questions. Not a problem. This forum exists to support all TacOps players, new or old. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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