Confused

[Liddell-Hart]

Playing Battle in the Shadow, had a Challenger taken out by a front upper hull penetration from a 50mm AT from 850 yards, I had no LOS to the gun that killed me, which at least suggests a difficult angle, and all the armor penetration data I can find suggest that a 50mm would at best struggle to penetrate a Challenger frontally at that distance even dead on straight with tungsten ammo. Does CMBO model variable quality armor?

[Kingfish]

All the armor penetration data I can find suggests that the 37mm equipped Stuart or M8 greyhound would struggle to penetrate a Tiger frontally (and without Tungsten ammo to boot), yet in CMBO...

[LCJr]

Did you have detailed armor hits(shift-D) on? About the only way I could see it happen would be a weak point penetration.

All the armor penetration data I can find suggests that the 37mm equipped Stuart or M8 greyhound would struggle to penetrate a Tiger frontally (and without Tungsten ammo to boot), yet in CMBO...

Ingame the Tiger has weak points on at least on the front upper hull and front turret. That's only frontal Tiger kills I've ever seen by a 37mm, unless you count gun damage.

I've played around with a lone Tiger vs. Stuart hordes some since seeing simliar comments on this forum. On average it's taken around two dozen frontal hits to get the weak point kill but I've had it happen at as low as 2 and 5 hits. A few of the penetrations were no effect or 1 crew casualty so even a penetrating hit isn't a 100% kill. I wouldn't bank on gun damage either as one of my test Tigers took 5 gun hits for no effect.

In an even points battle, or even on attack, I don't think I'd bank on a few 37mm's taking out a Tiger.