Strider Posted October 30, 1999 Share Posted October 30, 1999 Had 2 60mm mortar teams sitting still for at least 2 turns. Other units spotted a 'gun?' way up in the left corner of the map. I targeted both my mortars on the area, but couldn't determine if it was targeted...Used the 'fire' command, but all I got was los was obstructed...Is there a visual cue that arty has 'targeted' a spot/area? Am I using the wrong command to target my mortars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted October 30, 1999 Share Posted October 30, 1999 At least for now, 60mm mortars require a clear LOS to fire. It is only off-map mortars (controlled by an artillery observer) that can be fired without LOS. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobar Posted October 30, 1999 Share Posted October 30, 1999 ok, that explains alot, If this is realistic, (which I don't know 1 way or another) , I guess we'll see in the final version. I'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamey Posted October 31, 1999 Share Posted October 31, 1999 That explains it! I couldn't figure out why my 60mm mortars wouldn't fire! Charles, how about letting the mortars fire IF the company commander has a clear LOS to the target. You could add another menu command to the company comander's menu like "Target mortar" or something. Just a suggestion. By the way, GREAT game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted October 31, 1999 Share Posted October 31, 1999 Hi Jamey, that is our plan. If we don't get to it we might just make on map mortars fire indirectly without spotters. Tough call though, since this isn't realistic either. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 31, 1999 Share Posted October 31, 1999 Right now I'm reading "With the Old Breed" (Author: Sledge). It's the narrative of a Marine in the Pacific. He was a 60mm mortar man. From his account, it is quite clear that the 60mm mortars would often fire without anyone having LOS to a location. In fact, this was one of the mortar's primary jobs -- hitting a target in defilade to the rest of the company's weapons. They would do this by registering the mortar before-hand (i.e. with an observer), then marking the angle and trajectory to hit particular locations, especially potential lines of advance etc... So saying that the 60mm can't fire without LOS on a target is probably not accurate. But they also should not be allowed to adjust targets at will ala CC. Perhaps they require 2-4 minutes after reaching a new position before they can fire indirect? Sage p.s. For anyone who has not read his book, it is extraordinary in it's clarity and sophistications, yet it is never literary, preachy or 'philisophical' (at least not intentionally). [This message has been edited by sage (edited 10-31-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Time Software Posted October 31, 1999 Share Posted October 31, 1999 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>They would do this by registering the mortar before-hand (i.e. with an observer), then marking the angle and trajectory to hit particular locations, especially potential lines of advance etc...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Actually Combat Mission does have artillery/ordnance registration markers, though none of these are included in the demo. These points act as spots where FOs can call in artillery twice as quickly, and at which on-map ordnance can fire with increased accuracy (i.e. they've previously boresighted it). I can't remember if we allow mortars to fire indirect at one of these markers but we should so I'll make sure that gets in there. Then it can simulate exactly what you've mentioned above. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcpookie Posted November 1, 1999 Share Posted November 1, 1999 Great game! When does it go gold? What is the maximum range of the 60mm mortars? ------------------ [HC]Pookie http://talk.to/hc hcpookie@hotmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted November 1, 1999 Share Posted November 1, 1999 Charles -- That's perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts