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Douglas Ruddd

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  1. 9 minutes ago, John Kettler said:

    Douglas Ruddd,

    After what was briefed to us at the 1985 SOVIET THREAT TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE on the armor/anti-armor situation by the CIA's top SMEs, the whole auditorium went silent, followed by gasps, choking sounds, etc. I truly thought they were going to haul people out from heart attacks and such. What we were told was traumatic, since it upset everything most of us knew or thought we knew on the matter. I had a bit of a leg up, for I was aware to a small degree of the SECRET level Defense Science Board's Armor/Anti-armor Summer Study, but that was as nothing compared to the full rundown we got at Langley. The DSB study used the latest and best Army 105 mm round, which  was experimental and DU, and even it couldn't frontally penetrate an ERA equipped T-72. This was when the Abrams in the field still had the L7A1 105 mm gun. Kontakt-5 was specifically designed to defeat long rod penetrators by applying shearing forces to relatively thin rods, so this may've been the problem, rather than rigged tests. Also, tests have a way of embarrassing the testers, in that the wholly unexpected may well occur, then have to be painstakingly analyzed to determine and correct the cause. Nor is rigging a test unheard of, as I've shown repeatedly.

    Regards,

    John Kettler

    John, I was refering to the 120mm DU rounds being defective, was aware of the problems with the 105mm rounds. From what I have read on the machining of DU, it does not take much to cause microscopic cracks, may have been known they were bad, or may not have. Gonna search tomorrow on  Google, providing my Google-Fu is up to snuff.....

  2. 1 hour ago, John Kettler said:

    Guys,

    Thought you might find this of keen interest. It's a 2007 Jane's article about tests conducted right after the Cold War (I've reported on some harrowing ones from pre-1985) which showed how truly screwed the US and NATO were vs Russian armor protection.

    https://www.strategypage.com/militaryforums/2-23308.aspx#startofcomments

    Regards,

    John Kettler

    I remember that report from the 1990's, don't have alink now, but I seem to recall an article/report (TV news?) that the M829 DU rounds were defective, they had a chance to shatter upon impact. Argument was the test was rigged so more money would be expended..... you know, over inflate the threat. /shrug

     

    Douglas

  3. 30 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

    The Airfix kit is actually 1:76 and it doesn't share the particular fault that identifies this one.....The Airfix kit has so many issues of its own that if the faker had used one of those, even a non-hard-core armour modeller would have spotted it.  ;)

    If you like modelling, you will love this:  http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/

    To get us back on subject, have a Leopard:

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    Model built & painted by the legendary Andy Moore at Britmodeller:  http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235011114-leopard-2a7/#comment-2524320

    Thanks for the link, bookmarked for later! That is one sweet Leopard II!

  4. 1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

    It won't let me view the video.....The still image is rather uninformative.  I wouldn't imagine they'd be able to keep a Leopard in the field for too long though, not much commonality locally and no ready source of spares (that aren't slightly charred).  :unsure:

    I want to know about the Nazi UFO with the Panther turret, it's something I've debunked personally.....The Panther turret used on the model (for that's what it is) has a most singular inaccuracy that is present only on a pair of very particular model kits, one 1:72 and one in 1:35 (one kit was copied from the other).  The faker didn't know this, but hard-core armour modellers do.  ;)

    No, you really don't want to go there, that whole thread got a bit messy, and has been brought a couple of times since, and it sort of got messy, again. Try the internet way back machine, it may have the old forum archived.

    Do know about the model(s), they were, if iirc, a kit bashed flying saucer from the 1960s TV show The Invaders from Aurora with a 1/72 Panther turret glued on the bottom.

  5. 17 hours ago, Michael Emrys said:

    Ah, I thought it looked kinda funny, but didn't slow down enough to figure out why. M18 right? What's that thing on the back of the turret pointing up at the sky? Not an MG I don't think. Looks to me like a small recoilless rifle, but maybe just some random post-explosion junk.

    Michael

    Looks like a M1919 .30 machine gun, larger image here: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/53/03/68/530368219c5449d8fcfbe3517a7f98b6.jpg

  6. 6 hours ago, Machor said:

    In between virtual tankheads like myself, Fremen wannabes (I'm one), folks who want post-WW2 stuff (count me in), and the fact that BFC has the majority of 3D models done, may I second Arab-Israeli Wars? I have great gaming memories from Avalon Hill's IDF, and the setting would really bring out the wrath of ATGM.

    CMVT FTW! :P

    IDF was a great game, as well as MBT. I would like to see Arab-Israeli Wars, 1948, 1967, 1973. '67 Would be interesting with Israeli M51 Super Shermans vs Jordanian M47s and M48s, or M48s vs the IS3. Good mix back then of modern (for the time) MBTs vs WW2 tanks (admittedly upgunned). North Africa would be nice, Spanish Civil War to France 1940 and the Balkans.

    Just my 2 Quatloos......

  7. 5 hours ago, c3k said:

    Looks like the cupola took a hit, as well. 

    The armor looks mostly intact: enough to keep fragments and most (all?) of the blast from 75mm shells out of the turret, especially given the acute angle at which it appears the shells hit. (Did they even detonate? I don't see the typicale HE blast pattern.) I'm curious about what killed the turret crew. Should HE blast effect yield more behind armor effect?

    Could it have been spalling?

  8. From another forum.... "The side of a Panther tank turret, cracked by three glancing blows of 75 mm HE, June 1944.

    Photograph by Major W H J Sale, 3rd/4th County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters), World War Two, North West Europe, 1944.

    The three hits from 3rd/4th County Shermans killed the turret crew, but apart from cracking the thick armour plating did no other damage to the tank."

     

     

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