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And neither did the Canadian Leopard 2A4+ Actually the Leopard 2A4+ never existed, it was a concept (original planning) to fit a standard Leopard 2A4 with the same gun that equips the Leopard 2A6 in order to train crews for the Leopard 2A6M CAN since the original plan consisted in having 40 combat ready Leopard 2A6M CAN. But now what Canada decided to drop the "Leopard 2A4+" concept because it was decided that the combat ready force would be composed by 20 Leopard 2A6M CAN and 20 Leopard 2A4M CAN (a total of 40 combat ready tanks). As for the remaing Leopard 2A4s (the "training force") they will either be upgraded to Leopard 2A4M CAN or will be simply be kept as standard Leopard 2A4. The later possibility is more likelly, even because if there's ever a need to send "training" Leopard 2A4 tanks into combat those same tanks could be easily and quickly upgraded to the Leopard 2A4M CAN configuration. Actually the reason why I asked for this (the replacement of Canadian Leopard 2A4+ for the Leopard 2A4M CAN) was because like I previously said, the Leopard 2A4+ never existed!

In the NATO module the Leopard 2 tanks that are modeled for the Canadian Forces are the Leopard 2A6M and the Leopard 2A4+ which (the later one) was supposed to be a Leopard 2A4 equiped with longer barrel L55 gun seen in the Leopard 2A6 (instead of the stardard Leopard 2A4 shorter barrel L44 gun). This was at the time when Combat Mission Shock Force: NATO module was made the plan that the Canadian Armed Forces had for their Leopard 2 tanks. But the final plan changed a bit and what's happening regarding the Canadian forces Leopard 2 force is that the Leopard 2A6M are being retained like previously planned but instead of upgrading their Leopard 2A4 to Leopard 2A4+ (mainly with the purpose of training crews for the Leopard 2A6M) the Canadian Leopard 2A4 tanks (or at least some of them) are being upgraded to a standard called Leopard 2A4M CAN. The Leopard 2A4M CAN is an upgrade that includes addon armour around the turret and hull which is very similar to the addon armour seen in the Leopard 2A6 (or Leopard 2A7 to be more precise) but it will retain the shorter barrel L44 gun instead of being upgraded with the longer L55 gun. So externally and even in terms of defensive/armour capability the Leopard 2A4M CAN is almost identical to the Leopard 2A6M CAN. The external diferences in the Leopard 2A4M CAN (compared to the Leopard 2A6M CAN) are the shorter barrel gun (L44 gun) which is the standard Leopard 2A4/A5 gun and a small "notch" in the frontal right side turret armour in order to accomodate the gunner's sight which is located in the front right side of the turret (while in the Leopard 2A5/A6 this sight is located in the top of the turret). So my suggestion is: Replace the Canadian Leopard 2A4+ model in the NATO module with a Leopard 2A4M CAN model. This would be much more realistic and it would even improve the capability of the Canadian forces in the NATO module since the Leopard 2A4M CAN is much more resistant/armoured than the Leopard 2A4+. I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that making a Leopard 2A4M CAN wouldn't be that or too hard: Only small modifications on the Leopard 2A6M CAN model and the replacement of the longer barreled L55 gun with the shorter barreled L44 gun would be needed. Here's some info regarding the Leopard 2A4M CAN: http://www.armyrecognition.com/krauss-maffei_press_release_defense_company_german/krauss-maffei_wegmann_delivers_20_upgraded_leopard_2a4_main_battle_tanks_to_canada_canadian_army_uk.html http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3A27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3Ab1faf659-0da2-4fe9-b677-88858c8d0aa4 http://www.casr.ca/bg-leopard-2a4m.htm What's your oppinion regarding this? Thanks in advance for replies...

Humm ok, thanks for the reply.

I bought Combat Mission Shock Force almost a couple of years ago and more recently I bought the NATO module and now I decided to start the Canadian Forces campaign. But I have the following question: In real life the Canadian Coyote vehicles Recce vehicles carry either a MMSS (Mast Mounted Surveillance System) or a GMSS (Ground Mounted Surveillance System) which allows the vehicle to detect enemy forces at much longer ranges than "more conventional" sensors and in fact the NATO module manual refers that the Coyote carry either on of those two kind of sensors but unfortunally I don't know (and I can't find in the manual) how to use those systems in the Coyote, so my question is: How can I use these systems with the Coyote? BTW, I'm currently in the 2nd mission of the Canadian campaign. Thanks in advance for replies...