Guardsman11b

Are you really in the Army? There are so many things wrong with what you're saying that it makes me wonder. Have you been to basic yet? </font>

Well, I am perfectly capable of making better statements, but yet you fail to still realize one key word in my last message. Opinion. It is my opinion that the Stryker is crap. Why? cause I have more experience in other fields, and don't need some armored school bus to take me to battle. Again, my opinion. It is my O P I N I O N, that the Stryker is huge, and enemy forces will see it coming. I don't know about you, but I just do not wish to be seen ahead of time, by the enemy. That is my opinion. You can keep your Stryker if you love it so much. I honestly do not care. My unit is upgrading to Air Assault anyway soon, and we will not need your Strykers, like we do not need them now. We have better things to do than sit on our asses during hostile action. You may not like my opinions, and you do not have to, but its my Freedom of Speech, and all the facts and petty insults you may throw at me, will mean **** to me. By the way, the GI Bill is already going to good use, especially when I am studying Criminal Justice and Law. But hey, thanks for your Opinions and Comments, StrykerPSG, and stay safe bud.

I don't see how it is a "brash statement" and "uneducated". It is my opinion of the Stryker. I do not like it, and I prefer the Uparmored Humvee, or the Bradley Fighting Vehicle over the Stryker. As I stated before, it is an easy target, and I don't think anyone likes taking fire... I apologize if my opinion made you, or any other Infantryman look "foolish". I have a year and half left on my contract, and from my experiences, I will side with the uparmored Humvee and Bradley over the Stryker any day. But what do I know... I'm just an "uneducated" National Guardsman.

It would look real cool right up to the point where a platoon of BMP's sets the column aflame with a couple bursts of autocannon fire. The M2 is nice but it isn't the god gun that people often assume it to be. </font>

SO yeah, before we detour to far off the original topic, the main thing i am looking for is the ability to have American mobile units without the Stryker. Light units, such as the National Guard, where only the Hummers are used, Someone mentioned here before that National Guard are not an invasion force, but yet, during the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, there were many National Guard and Reserve units activated, and were apart of the long ass convoy that rolled up MSR Tampa. Come on, how cool would it be too see a convoy of Hummers, all having ma deuces mounted on top, rolling down an MSR, working their targets? It would also be nice, to see in another version the addition of the Iraqi Army. Although worthless as **** (my opinion) still be a good ally (cannon fodder). in any way, I just would like to see a bit more flexibility with selecting units, and inter changing the parts. Thanks. Please, pardon my language. [ August 05, 2007, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: Guardsman11b ]

Since this is your first? glance at a debate with JasonC, let me say that your response is not entirely unexpected. Even us grizzled Forum veterans are often left with the same puzzled reaction. This thread is no real exception sgtgoody (esq), I think the main problem with Stryker is that it wasn't allowed to be sold as an upgrade to light infantry, which I only partially agree with overall (in some ways it is spot on). The reason for this is the Heavy guys felt threatened by the concept and dumped bucketloads of poison into the well very early on and that framed the debate. It never, ever should have been an argument between Heavy vs. Medium since it is apples vs. oranges. Different tools in the toolbox. No need for the hammer to get nervous the pliers will replace them I do agree, and I think CM:SF shows this to be true, that in some open conventional settings the Strykers are extremely vulnerable and the Heavies are not. But it is also true that there are settings that show exactly the opposite. There are also settings where both are screwed. An ambush by enemy light infantry armed with RPG-29s and AT-14 Kornets will likely smoke the rides no matter what they are. In that situation, Guardsman11b's armored Humvees and trucks are just as good. From a cost standpoint, the Army can afford to lose a Humvee more than it can a Stryker, a Stryker more than it can a Bradley. The guys inside of them are equally priceless, and (in some situations) equally vulnerable. When I hear other non-military types comparing which vehicle they would rather ride in, based on vehicle stats, I think I would rather walk Steve </font>

The Borg? THE BORG ARE HERE? oh my god everyone run!!!

uh...what?

Do you even own this game? Almost all the stuff you asked for is already in-game. If you want lightfighters just delete the Strykers from the MTOE in the editor. </font>

I absolutely hate Strykers. Its probably because I am a light infantryman (Mountain) and not into the "Armored" aspect of modern warfare. I know the basis of the American Forces is the Stryker, but I have put together a list of units, and vehicles for another release that I hope are included. The up armored Humvee, with a 50. Cal and 49mm Mk. 19 Bradley Fighting Vehicle, added to all Mech US Army units Regular Infantry units, with either a mix of M4s to M16s. National Guard units, with M-60 support, and or 240G. Airborne units (Ar Assault) and If the engine can support it, other Helicopters, such as Blackhawks, Chinooks, and the Kiowa (actaully showing if you zoom out). I don't like Strykers... heh What do you guys think about those units?