GasMask

Wow, thanks Mun and CIVDIV. I apreciate that, really. I tried to pick no fights, I even apologized for my army comment. Thanks for being cool guys.

Actually, it was 2000 when I posted my last response. I can't spend all day online guys. I decided to watch the new movie Waiting, and then after that I played some Counter-Strike Source before bed. I try not to stay up to late. Once again, instead of being adults about this you have to make accusations. Sanatchi (or whatever your name is) there are a lot of civilians on here, as well as guys who arn't Marines. When I told my dad what my job was he didn't really know what it was, because the army doesn't have an exact copy of my job. He did finally say I sounded like something, but I can't remember the nomenclature. I said logistics Marine because I don't feel that a lot the guys on here would understand, nor even care what I did. Even most Marines have no clue what I did, because in each batallion there are only 2 or 3 of us, so it's not a huge MOS. My MOS was 0411/MIMMS, Marine Corps Intergrated Maintenance Management Systems. My job was boring, and I didn't enjoy it most of the time so why the hell would I go to google to pick it out. I used the UM 4700 to do what I did among other Pubs that I can't remember anymore. Do you know what pubs are? When I graduated MIMMS school on Camp Johnson in Febuary of 2002, I was attached to 3/6 at Camp Lejeune who was deployed to Afghanistan; actually, they were on their way back. They had to stop to do a wash down somewhere, and didn't make it back till the beginning of May. So for 3 months I came to work and did nothing but clean and PT and get the barracks ready for thier return with the help of other Marines who were injured from the war. It was only about 5 others though, so we had our hands full. So anyways, when they returned they decided to start the duty roster going again and I had duty every 3rd night, because everyone else was on leave... so it was me and some new SSGTs that joined after the deployment. But after a month of that we finally started the old rutines again, and I was given my duties. For some strange reason they decided to make me the MMC (Maintenance Management Chief) which was crazy because not only was I fresh out of school, but we had a Cpl 0411 in Comm. So I said, ok I can do this; and started working with the outgoing MMC who by the way didn't tell me that everything I learned in school about MIMMS should be flushed down the toilet because we were using a new system called ATLASSII+. He pretty much just had me sit around for two weeks reading pubs that I had already read in school, and everytime I asked a question he'd kind of blow me off. It was a really bad turn over and thus I had a hard time doing my job. After he left, my MMO (Maintenance Management Officer) which was 1st Lt Hermosa (don't know if he's still around) left shortly after, and they replaced him with another MMO but this guy wasn't a logistics officer. He was a tank officer, and had no clue what he was doing. I don't know why he was there but he said he came from 2nd Tanks and was just attached to 3/6 H&S to help out. As you can see, my first few months in the Corps were strange. To make it even more strange, time were a changen as they say, because I left for Boot Camp on July 31, 2001... so that means that I was on the rifle range durring September 11. Talk about crazy stuff happening. We had no idea what the hell to think, all we know is our Drill Instructor came out 4 different times while we were snapping in. The first time he said terrorist crashed into one of the towers. Then he came out later saying they hit another tower. Then he came out later saying they hit the pentagon. Then the last time he came out he said... and I quote... "They're all gone." Then he said, "get ready, cause you bitches are going." The remainder of the day and the following day were the quietest days of Boot Camp... it was very erie. Anyways, back onto my very exciting job, when I left for Iraq, guess what they told me. They said after about 2 and a half years of learing the ATLASSII+ Program and doing my job one way, that in Iraq, I will have to use MIMMS again because ATLASS requires a constant internet connection with all units and is non deployable... GREAT! So, thus after forgetting MIMMS, I had to relearn it in about 3 months before shipping out, but hey, I'm a Marine, I adapt and overcome. Then after I learned MIMMS again I finally got some good news, they said that Camp Lejeune had decided to go back to MIMMS and drop ATLASS. I was so excited because actually I feel MIMMS is a lot easier to deal with. Whith ATLASS things are done without really communicating with people, but with MIMMS you've gotta get down in there and talk to the Mechanics and the Armorers, and Optics guys, and Comm Techs. It's much more personal and I like it. As for what I did? Well, thier is this report that is generated by the MIMMS program called a DPR, or Daily Processing Report. The whole idea behind MIMMS is that "I", the MMC can have an eyes on of every pieice of combat gear we have in the maintenance cycle, as well as everyone else involed with it, like the Motor-T chief. Anyways, I would print out this report and "scrub it." That means I would look at it and pick off all the errors. You see, every item in the Marine Corps has differnt names, or actually, codes, and the DPR would pretty much be giberish to untrained eyes. Such as a Hummvee (sp) would be a D1158, D1159, or some other "TAMS" as we call them. D stands for Motor-T, and the following numbers determine what it is, such as, does it have back seats and a gun mount, or does it have a tow... you get the idea. A would be Comm gear, and forgive me but I can't remember any Comm items. A2070 is something, but I don't remember what. B would be engineer items such as generators or trams. C would be either Engineers or NBC items, but we don't deal with a lot of that in the infantry. Actually a little bit of info, the NBC used to give us our NBC gear but now civilians have taken over the role, I don't know why, look it up if you are intrested. Next we have E which are the weapons, this is a very important tam of course. An example would be my favorite weapon, the .50 cal sniper rifle we call the SASR. It's the E1475. It's actually not designed for human targets, but for equipment. That's pretty much all I dealt with, there are other Tams but they are less important. Anyways, as I said everything is in a code format, including what is wrong with the weapon. I really can't remember the defect codes, but there is a lot of them. I'm getting really bored of typing so I'm going to shorten this up. The bottom line is, I take the DPR and I find errors on it, because with errors on the DPR it slows down the maintenanence cyle thus if you are in combat, men can die because they don't have the combat gear they need. I also inspect each section, armory, motor-t, and comm to make sure thier records are correct and they arn't trying to hide stuff from me. In Iraq I was down there every day, but my fellow Marines were usually honest, and when they weren't, I knew about it, and it and they were dishonest only to help out our fellow infantry Marines by making sure a bad vehicle or weapon didn't get out into combat. Sometimes the higher ups don't understand stuff, but that's why you've got a salty SSgt or GnySgt in motor-t or what not. Let's see, I'd also talk directly to the guys fixing the gear to make sure I get the whole story, and I'd prepare reports based on all this data that I gather, as to why something is broken and how it's being fixed and how long it'll take and how much it'll cost... cost is a big issue too, but I won't go into that; and I would report this stuff with the help of my MMO to the Battalion Commander via a nice power point pressentation. As you can see, I dealt with PFCs to Colonels on occasion. Of course my job was boring sometimes, but it was needed to make sure things ran smoothly in the maintenance cycle. I hated it sometimes, and sometimes I had fun, but one fact remains, I hate to explain it to people. So forgive me if I didn't put all this out there before, I didn't think you'd care about a non combat MOS. Now, you might not have understood everything I said above, and I did that on purpose, beacause I hate being called a lyer, and I was trying to be nice by not coming in here with a lot of military termonology so that not only will civilians be able to read my post but also those that don't know my job can read it. Do you think the average infantryman knows what the MCBUL 3000 is? Of course not, because he doesn't need to worry about it, that's my job. So, why don't you go find out what it is and tell the class about it since you want to be a dick for no reason but to make your e-penis larger. [ February 14, 2006, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: GasMask ]

Well Seanachai, I don't see any reason to float my own boat. I float the Marine Corps' boat, but I don't like to brag about what I do/did. Besides, what I did can't compare to the leagacy left behind by Marines before me. (you are saying that my simple reply was a good thing right?)

Either that or AKD and Nidan1 are the same person and faked the photo to make us go, oh wow; and they/he is laughing an evil laugh right now. Damn you NIDAN!!!

Intresting. It took a while for my dad to understand that Marines don't wear patches. I never really talked to him much about how the army does their's, I just know he's got a lot of them. I wander why he decided to go from Marine Infantry to Army Infantry. Stranger.

I looked at the picture and I noticed what seems to be the 2nd Mar Div emblem. So... what's all that about, and how do you know he was in combat as a Marine? Is there a web site that goes with it for story purposes?

As long as there are beaches, it will be possible to have to land on them. Don't be so quick to say it's over, they said that about dog fighting with jets. One of these days, we may have to hit a beach again, such as the Korean pininsula... again... or hell, even Kuwait one day, or any number of places. We might even find our selves invading France, can't wait for that. lol jk of course... maybe not... no no, just kidding... yeah right... what?

Well, since my job delt with all aspects of combat gear, I got to know the armory guys quiet well and visited quite often. That was taken in a run down chicken factory in Iraq, and that room is a make shift armory.

"However, the USMC does employ amtracks so maybe they are heavy on occasion. Amtracks aren’t organic to USMC infantry are they? Also, what about the LAV’s? Are they just recon or infantry carriers? " Well, the Doctrine of the Marine Corps has always been amphibious assault. All our tracked vehicles other then tanks are amphibious. Our AAVs, and LAVs can hit a beach hard and drop Marines out the back. We also utilize LCAC vehicles (SP) which are huge hover craft and are really loud, but they can drive on up on the land as far as you want. We are designed really for coming off the water, thus "marine." In the old days were were just made to protect naval ships by shooting rifles at other ships crews, but that's all changed.

Wow Nidan1, you must have been the kid in school who thought the teachers were all aliens, and probably now believe the government is trying to implant trackers in your body. You're favorite movie must be Soylent Green... Anyways, I have no idea who Fusilier9 is. I have given you my units, my city of residence, my 1st borns date of birth, and I've discussed my actions in Iraq. If you still can't believe I'm just another Marine, then I'm sorry, but it's true. Fine. Do you want a picture of me in the Corps? Would that make you believe I am being truthful? This is one I sent to my WIFE from Iraq, so don't get all crazy on me.

Fusilier9, thank you for the thanks, but I don't expect a thanks from a former military man. You've got my respect for serving, that's the bottom line. Wheather we disagree on something is besides the point. You're right about our military doing a great job. I mean, when you're in the military and in a war, if you don't do your best sometimes people die. I'm sure your son is doing a great job, so send him my hello. All service members have my respect, and I'll get thier backs whenever needed. I guess as a vetern now, that's my duty, to support the ones still in. Feels strange, but I like it.

You speak very respectfully, and I apreciate that, thus you've earned my respect. I will say that everything is changing. Believe it or not, my infantry unit in Iraq took a bunch of non infantry Marines and made a Civil Affairs group, and started building playgrounds and shook hands and played with kids. It's very strange to think that Marines are being given this mission and as I do think it is needed, I also don't feel that it's the Marines job. Marines arn't designed to be nice and gentle. Sure it's a different world, and a different war, but I wander if this will be hurtful or helpful to the Corps. Only time will tell.

Yes that's true, and we constantly train and go to the field to keep that going. My dad told me that the army just isn't like that. Like I said he was an Army tanker and for 24 years. He said when they sent him to Vietnam, they sent him as an infantrymen, and he was freaking out because he had no idea how to be an infantrymen, because all he knew was tanks. He said that I probably had more infantry training in a couple of years then he had in 24 years, because the only training he got was boot camp. Now, I'm not making this up to make fun of the Army, this is coming from a retired 1st Sgt of the Army. The army is a good fighthing force. Their armor is the best. Hell, I was born at Fort Knox for crying out loud, "The Home of Armor." So I don't hate the Army, really.

Oh, and another example would be in Afghanistan. 3/6 had occupied the airport there and needed to surround it, so they turned H&S company (headquarters and service) into an infantry company; and put them in fighting holes all along the perimeter. They even took an artillery company, K' battery I believe, and made them into an infantry unit. That's the kind of tactics, and mind set that I've been talking about. There is no, "I can't do this because I'm not infantry." Every Marine a riflemen, and most Marines think like that, thus making us, in my mind better warriors; but that's just my opinion.

Yeah, it can be tough, but you just gotta do it you know? Anyways, I was incharge of making sure all our combat gear was operational. It's more complicated then that, but that's the basics of it. Logistics are the 3 Bs. Bullets, bandaids, and beans. It's pretty much making sure the main fighting bodies have what they need to survive, ammo, food and water, and medical supplies, among other stuff. Being a non infantry Marine isn't as dangerous as being in the infantry, but it's still dangerous, because you're on the front lines with them. You might not participate in combat actions, but usually non infantry Marines are called up to do just that. An example of this would be when an Army convoy got ambushed a few miles from our FOB. Most of our infantry guys were out on patrols and our QRF was also out, so we loaded a bunch of non infantry Marines into a few gun trucks and rolled on the scene. The army had left a few guys behind so we picked them up. While we were doing that, the insurgents didn't run away like usual, they stayed behind and thus ambushed our Marines, and of course were destroyed. So, is it safer being non infantry? Yes and no. Are you always on the front lines? If you are in an infantry unit, everyone goes... everyone. But the infantry guys are great, they get a lot of my respect, especially the snipers. Every infantry unit has a sniper platoon and I tried to get to know them where ever I was, cool guys.

I was a logistics Marine. I wanted to join the infantry, but at the last moment changed my mind because my wife got pregnent.

I worked with a guy who said he was an infrantry officer in the army durring Grenada. He said he was part of a recon unit that was ordered to recon the airport before the main force arrived. He said when he got there, they had armor and lots of troops defending it and were quickly cought up in a feirce fire fight; but he said he couldn't withdraw because they were all alone so they fought them back and took the air port. He seemed to be a pretty good guy and honest, and his actions might be secret, I don't know; but if it's true, I think that's pretty damn cool. I don't a whole lot about Grenada, just a little, so don't go quizing me.

Both. Sure I wasn't in the Corps when it happend but I know a lot of Marines who were, and my first unit 3/6 was the unit that took part in that campaign; thus it was talked about frequently. Marines like to talk about there history. When you join a unit, the first thing you do is learn where it's been, what it's done, and where it's going. 3/6 was also in Belieu Wood durring World War I, which earned us the title Devil Dog; and so I got to wear the French Forashay. (I spelled it how it sounds because it's french and I suck at spelling). Just a little bit of history.

It just wasn't realistic, that's all.

Aparently Nidan1, you've never been in combat. If you were, you wouldn't be acting like such a child. I'm going to be the bigger man however and walk away from this discussion; as I stated before I never wanted a fight, just a mature discussion. If this is how the boards are all around on this site then I might just stop coming here, because there is no need to fight on a website. Only on the internet can you be ambushed by virtual tough guys who think they are safe behind thier computers.

"Adults wouldn't be having a silly and pointless argument like this." That's why I've been saying let's just drop it for 3 pages now. "One or two I would imagine...I think they are manning the check out counters at the Baghdad PX." I hope you are joking with the best intentions man, because 6 Marines in my unit didn't die for nothing. That's really upsetting to read.

"This is very sad for (presumably) adults. Have a picture!" What do you mean by that?

Well, as for my unit. 2nd Battalion 2nd Marines, an infantry unit; we went deep into BIAP (Bahgdad international Airport, spelling may be wrong) for a little bit, and then flew to Kuwait. All in all, we had about two weeks of down time. We got to eat at an Air Force/Army chow hall which had ice cream and salad, and all kinds of good food. We were amazed at the conforts they had there. We also were able to watch movies and play Playstation. (this is in BIAP) My unit was under constant mortar attacks and ambushes for about three months straight and then off and on. We lost six good men to hostile actions and sent home a hundred or so more with pretty bad wounds, so it was good to relax a little. As for if it helped? I don't know man. When I got back, the arty on Camp Lejeune made not only me, but many other Marines jump and want to hit the deck lol. It took some getting used too. That reminds me of something funny. When we were in Al Momadia (sp) they would shoot rockets at our FOB. Usually they would fly right over, and durring the day, you couldn't see them but you could hear the destinctive fire/propulsion sound. So when we heard that we'd be like, OH SH**, and take cover; however jet's apparently make the same noice sometimes, so you'd have guys running and jumping into cover when a jet flew over and others would just be laughing at them, because they knew it was a jet some how. Let me tell you, it's not cool taking incoming when you're taking a crap, lol.

Posted by Nadin1 "Thank you sir...in a few short words you have identified the crux of the matter. I'm still saying that the guy who started this thread has done so with ulterior motives.." I just started the thread to say hi to everyone and to say how great of an idea it is to put Marines in the game. I have no other motives. It was meant for Marines to reply back and say what's up you know? Not that I mind other people replying, I just wish you guys wern't so hostile. This was my first post and most of you guys did nothing but insult me. Oh no, I misspelled a word... oh no, I'm a retard... grow up guys, really, stop trying to act perfect. Send me a video of you walking on water and then we'll talk. necranight@hotmail.com

Wow, once again, you guys try to insult my intelegence. You want to know why my typing isn't perfect and up to your standards? Well probably because I don't give a crap, and because I type sometimes in the day when I'm awake, and sometimes at night when I'm very sleepy. If you would spend more time trying to have a mature discussion with me and less time on my typing and with your attacks on me, then maybe I'd be a little less agrivated. Now, as for the acusation that I'm some guy who was banned. No, I'm sorry, but I'm just another Marine that you have to put up with. I was in 2/2, 3/6, and 2nd Marine Reg. I deployed to Iraq and am a consistent expert riflemen. I now live in Lexington Kentucky because I decided to get a civilian job and spend more time with my two sons. If this is anything like that other guy, then his life must suck just as bad as mine. Now I won't come here and try to prove to you guys that I'm a Marine and that I have all this knowledge. I have a great deal of knowledge yes, but it's packed away in the back of my head some where, because believe it or not, I have a life, and I don't have time to read a lot of books and smoke a pipe with my glass of Gin, talking to my book club about how great I am. I will tell you this though, I scored a perfect 100 on my knowledge test in Boot Camp, and I still know a lot of stuff, but I'm tired of defending my self, I proved my self on the Island years ago when I recieved my EGA and I'm not about to lower my self to some army guy, or civilian who has no idea what that's like or have any clue as to who I really am inside. So, can we just F'en chill? Can you please stfu with your insults and show some respect? I would really apreciate that. Man to man ok? Semper Fidelis CivDiv