Grpara

The outcome of the battle was quite grim for me.I backed my t34, but later on I was engaged in two frontal tankbattles.One at 300 m and one much closer.In both cases, my tanks were taken out from the first enemy shot by Michaels Pz IVs. From now on, I'll try to avoid frontal tankbattles when playnig allies as I've learned the hard way. [ May 18, 2003, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Grpara ]

Looking for excuses to get off work earlier? Anyway, have fun. Besides I'm going to Santorini for the weekend Alexander

I'm glad this topic has attracted many players.Indeed there are many options including the one of not engaging at all. Walpurgis thanks for the suggestions.I generally agree and after some tests I saw that changing targets does not always work so good.I'll definetly post the outcome of this so keep an eye on this post. I found out that the priority of the orders is as following: -Direct target order to a visible unit -Cover arc of any kind -Direct order to a non visible unit The time that will take to leave the arc mode and target the pretargeted unit once it enters LOS, depends on the quality of the crew and the distance of the target AND the bearing of the turret at the given moment (of course).However the safer thing to do if one decides to engage the enemy armor is to stick to the cover armor command. Mike you should not be eyepeaking on my posts Weren't you supposed to be away for a couple of days? Just kidding See you on the field [ April 29, 2003, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Grpara ]

Let's say that a T34 is under a cover armor order and is waiting for a German tank to come in the arc and in LOS.In the meanwhile, German infantry appears but it is quite far and is not a threat to the T34.The T34, not being threatened by the enemy infantry does not open fire and sticks to it's cover armor command. If the Russian commander wanted to fire to the advancing infantry and still kepp an eye for the enemy tank what would he do? 1st) Keep the cover armor command and issue a direct target command towards the infantry (without using the main gun?) 2st) Change the cover armor command to cover arc and thus giving freedom to the tank to fire at any target, THEN issue a direct target command to the enemy tank that is currently out of LOS but might become a valid target in the following round.According to the manual, units tend to stick to the direct order and will not miss the enemy tank if it comes into LOS in the following round. Finally a point that is not clear to me yet. -A T34 fires at enemy infantry. -T34's crew begin reloading HE to fire again -A german tank appears -As the tank is a bigger threat (or because the crew was under a cover armor command or because it was a direct fire order that became a valid target )the T34's crew decide to target it. -What happens then?Will the T34 suffer EXTRA reload time penalty given the fact that the HE reload proccess must be interrupted and begin AP reload? Or the first shell that will be fired from the T34 will simply be HE? Your thoughts on the matter

Stgabell, I've read your post and after running a few test I agree. Not as lethal as a big shell, 20 mm ammo can at least get somebody in the bunker killed and shoking the rest.

Thanks for making it clear Michael but if you watch carefully the video you'll notice just before the crew bails out ,a blast on the roof of the concrete bunker and that's a shell from artillery weapon.It might be from your field piece or a rocket.However, you might be right about the hail fire.We'll have to wait until game ends to see what really happened.

I've been reading many articles about bunkers that stated that they are virtually immune to arty fire.I'd like to share an experience I had on an email game game CMBB v 1.00 My opponent started the game with a pre planned barrage and a shell landed directly on top of one of my bunkers forcing the crew to bail out from the first second. This is right though, as a shell on top of a concrete building should really shake it's occupants denying them the strength to stay in there and start a fight.