Dead Horse
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I'll inject some disrespect then.Originally posted by Wisbech_lad:Ugh. Call me a bleeding heart liberal, and Cipher, no disrespect,
In forums frequented largely by actual serving military members, the term 'Walt' has come into play. Generally they look like the gentleman in the foreground:
Walt is short for "Walter Mitty", but he also answers to 'wannabe'. You can find him on Airsoft bulletin boards, or message boards like this:
Pretending to be something he's not. You can generally tell he's not really a serving soldier by his use of all the correct slang, with just a titch too much "gung ho" thrown in for verisimilitude.
I don't have a hard time believing someone could blow off another human being's arm with a .50 and then go on the internet and laugh about it, but such a thing would have to be pretty rare indeed.
If Cipher is the real deal, well, my apologies, but you don't need to go on as if you're John Wayne. Certainly we don't need the offensive racial epithets here. It's mostly a civilian crowd.
The real combat veterans that have posted here in the past - Forever Babra, Desdichado, Nidan1 - have been pretty reserved about their experiences which is what one expects of a combat veteran. That's something most Walts don't get.
Again, apologies to Cipher if he is the real deal, but of course all we have to judge anyone on here is what they say and how they say it. Knowing all the right slang doesn't prove anything one way or the other.
Rant off.
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The game isn't even out yet. I think you mean to say "let the rest of us get on with our wild speculation about game features, whining about the subject matter, and boasting about our own military service."Originally posted by Peter Cairns:Any chance of setting up a separate PENG forum so that all the in crowd can talk amongst themselves, and let the rest of us get on with talking about the game....
Peter.
Isn't that what the Peng Thread is for, in any event? Only with a twist; they speculate about each other's genitalia, whine about the Outerboarders, and boast about their literary skillz (w00t!)...or maybe that was speculate about each other's literary skillz, whine about their genitalia, and boast ...no wait, that's not quite right either....
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Might be funny if it was in German or somefink.
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Maybe follow the best advice here and just STFU until they have something to tell you and stop making moronic demands. If this game is really that important to you maybe you need to step away from the keyboard before its too late...Originally posted by GSX:Well I didnt think my question was a rant. I didnt realise the game was so far away from completion either.
One last question then.
As far as BFC knows, what is the planned release date (month and year will do) for CMSF. Knowing this I can then come back here a bit closer to the time.
Oh and thanks for the answer as well BFC.
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This seems like confusion on your part; neckalcing was done in theatre, but not by the CAR. The Canadian atrocities revolved around two deaths, one as a result of a night-long beating and torture session. The CAR had orders to shoot "between the skirt and the flip-flops" but widespread torture of prisoners was not commonplace.Originally posted by John Kettler:Aco4bn187inf and troops,
ISTR that what really led to the unit's disbandment was "necklacing" prisoners while deployed in Africa. For those who don't know, the bound prisoner has a tire draped around the neck. Accelerants are applied, and the tire is then lit.
Regards,
John Kettler
The Somalia Inquiry documents are widely available on the internet.
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Why not wait until you see the game and then maybe your mind won't have to boggle so much? Just a suggestion. The devs already stated they aren't sure exactly how this will all work themselves either. Why not let them sort it out and just wait and see what happens?
Your sigline says "Be constructive" but I don't see any of that in your post.
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Flak jackets actually did originate in WWII as fragmentation protection for bomber crews. </font>Originally posted by panzerwerfer42:</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by M1A1TankCommander:
Flak jackets protect against flying shrapnell, wood and metal splinters. It has nothing to do with being on a bomber crew
Troops only recently started wearing bulletproof armor
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Yes, that's what he wants YOU to believe.Originally posted by Sergei:</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Santosdiablo:
Uhm Hitler is dead
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The Canadian experience. "PPCLI" is "Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry", one of three full-time infantry regiments in the CF.
For what it is worth, I see no use in giving different physical capabilities to female soldiers, but would like to see them included in CM:SF. Lest anyone think them unequal to the task, this was posted at a Canadian Forces website:
Nicely sums up the utter crap being posted about lesser physical requirements and all that other nonsense. Those Patricia's were in the air and on the ground because they did the same job as the men.As a company commander with 3PPCLI during Op APOLLO, I had a female infantryman under my command. We did the Army PT test and I had to tell her to stop at 350 sit-ups because it was becoming pointless. She had proved the point, and then some. We had another female infantry soldier who was equally hard. Neither of these PPCLI soldiiers who had met all of the "hurdles" ever let me or their fire-team partners down. They did the job, full-stop.When we air-assaulted into the Shah-i-Kot Valley, both of those infantrymen were there. The ultra-fit soldier who had done the sit-ups twisted a knee disembtarking from the helo and had to be evacced. It was a legit injury. The other soldier did the business just like anyone else. She was later involved in a mine-strike during a routine KAF patrol that wrote-off the armoured Hummer her patrol was riding in. She got bruised and battered, but soldiered on. I give full credit to her and the soldiers that she served with in B Coy 3 PPCLI. Full-stop.
Those here who demean or otherwise question the role of female soldiers on combat operations are fundamentally wrong. I have served on combat ops with female infantrymen, and I am here to tell you that they can do "the business" just like any man can. The truth of the matter is that that most "men" don't have the parts to soldier at the sharp end. Just as most women don't have that particular inclination. But those that do have the gumption to get on a helo when they're told that that there are determined enemy awaiting them at the far end? They are genderless. A soldier, is a soldier. And I had the distinct honour of serving with genuine soldiers regardless of gender.....
When certain ladies step up to the plate, they are good to go. When we were staging for Op Torii into Tora Bora, as the acting 3 PPCLI CO I had a male Cpl from A Coy (Para) refuse to muster. He would not Air-Assault a second time, and I therefore had to send him back to Kandahar and then home. He had failed to rise to the occasion. So much for gender superiority....
The female infantry soldiers that I had the benefit of serving with in 3 PPCLI were an admitted minority. Having said that, those that did make the grade and join the unit were exceptional soldiers. They met the standard, and were good to go. Full-stop. They went on to soldier on combat operations, and did the Regiment proud. What more could one ask?
I would soldier alongside those female Patricias any day of the week. They got on the helo's when the forecast called for "pain". They got off at the other end, prepared to do the business. Most did the same, but there were some "men"who flinched to the point of refusal. Neither of the female Patricias flinched when it came time for mulitiple combat air assaults.....
The "hard men" here can spout all they like. At the end of the day, you've either faced deliberate combat operations, or you haven't. You've either encountered an unexpected life or death situation while "peace-keeping", or you haven't. If you haven't, then you have no right to comment upon the ability of female infantry soldiers to do the buisness. Am I hearing a thundering silence from the peanut gallery? I thought so.....
My thoughts on the matter of "gender equality".... for what it's worth.
If it is the same in the US, there is no point in not including them in the game, as Mike Emrys as pointed out.
[ November 04, 2005, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Dead Horse ]
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[ March 22, 2003, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: Dead Horse ]
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Kameraden,
Wunderbar!
Salutieren!
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HGMB
Weapons review from Iraq veteran
in Combat Mission Shock Force 1
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To answer the question, and provide you clarification, I am suggesting that the use of "authentic colloquialism" is often employed by Walts and is often effective. This entire thread is about wanna be who used effective language with one or two errors (see the very first post).
Most combat veterans I know - especially ones who have taken lives - generally don't trumpet their own achievements. Not in person. I suppose the Internet could make some a little more brazen, but those that have walked the walk generally don't have to prove anything to anyone. So yeah, the use of language seems a little "too pat", but I may be overly sensitive since that was what started this thread to begin with.
I may be unconstructive in these criticisms, but I detest poseurs, and detest even more discussing the taking of human life like it was a video game. A professional interest in the use of weapons and their effects is one thing; bragging about killing ragheads in order to built up "cred" where none is really needed is another.
Anyway, I didn't think twice about my comments here as the original topic has exhausted itself and has split off into a dozen other little conversations - which should probably be started in seperate threads anyway given the magic number 200 has been reached.