Achim

This time i choosed the fanatism setting too (50 % fanatism) i ran the test 6 times, all times the crew bailed out. i though the crew will never use an imobile tank as a pillbox (in my SPECIAL test, i dont know if the tank crew use the tank as a pillbox in a normal game (surrounded by friendly infantrie and tanks). if somebody think the game is crap, this isn´t true, the game is wonderfull, i never saw a tank surving a battle if it is imobile, the next shoots killed the tank ..... the "tank engine" is wonderfull too (tank death clock, damage modell and so on) this test was a very special case, it will never happen in real combat.

please remember, the test is very special. one tank, 4 flak guns, thats it. in real life combat this mission will never happen, there is always a tank hunter team or something, and the elite crew knew this (they fought a lot of battles), if they get imobile, they are dead (in a few hours, minutes). the crew in my test didnt know that there are only 4 flak guns, they though there are more soldiers (like in "real life") i will try another test, i am using elite crews AND fanatic troops. (fanatic trops fight to death)

@GriffinCheng+: 1. How are planes presented? Sill a "shadow"? Yes, shadows only, but wih diffrent sounds 3. Any "captured" weapon? The player can´t capture weapons in the field of combat, but u can buy them. (captured T 34 tanks, or PAK 76 as the german comander, i didnt play the russian very often, i dont know if they can buy german stuff too) 5. What are the parameters for generating QB? There are a lot of parameters, weather (snow storms,good weather, and so on), temperature, wind, year and month, what kind of terrain (north,middle,south, finnland, mixed),how much amunition (in %), training level, casulations (in % too), what kind of trops (inf, tanks, armored), experince, damm and many others (its realy awesome) This time u can load a map inside your quick battle game.

Abbott u say "We were trained ...", it think u are a tanker, if the armys of the world have the doctrine that the engine is one of the best weopons of a tank than the game engine works perfect. (the tank can´t move, and its under heavy fire, the crew cant see outside the tank (no information about their environment, the commander dont have any information too)its logical to bail out)

Ok, next test This time the IS 3 is in hull down position (the tracks cant get hit). the gun was destroyed, but the crew didnt bail out, the flaks shoot 6 turns. next test with 50 mm pak, same affect, gun get hit (destroyd) but the crew didnt bail out, the paks fired ...5 guns with 40 shells each ... a lot of shells at the tank, but the crew ignores the fire. (paniked, after the gun was destroyed) i though that the crew bails out pretty fast if the tank is imobile and they take another hits. i changed my opinion, the tank crews are not angry, the only bail out if they are imobile, is this realistic ? i dont know, i am not a tanker, and i never take gun hits in "my tank" i read that some of our forum readers are in the army, are there any tankers around here ? what is your order when your tank get imobile by enemy fire, do u bail out, or do u wait inside your steel beast ? if this questen sounds silly, sorry i am a zivilist, i never ask this questen myself (what should i do if my tank get imobile by enemy fire).

@mike8g,Michael Dorosh,Terence: I love this forum, the answers are good and logical. a imoblie tank is a dead tank, and the scenario designer "knows" that there are only flak guns, but the crew dont know this. i try create a scenario where the tank cant get imobile (hull down or something). (ich wünsche allen noch einen schönen abend)

Hello, first, its a GREAT game, i realy love it, good job. but i though that tank crews are very angry, they bail out pretty fast. ok, this is a subjektiv opinion (sorry, i am living in germany, my enlgish sucks), but i tested it .. try this, choose 4 Flak Guns 20 mm (with 4 barrels, they called 20 mm Flackvierling in the german version), than choose the year 1945, take an IS 3 (heaviest soviet tank) AND an elite crew. put the flak guns on a mountin (high 9) and in a wood, put the IS 3 on o road 300 meters away, and close the hatchets (bottun up, close the doors, i dont know the english order), now fire with the flak guns at the IS 3, after 1 or 2 turns the tank crew bails out (the tank is imobile and is facing the flak guns). i never sit in a tank and get hit by 20 mm canon fire, but i will never leave a tank with 200 mm steel and a huge gun because some idiots through snowballs at me. the IS 3 didnt take any damages (only imobile), the gun is ok, the crew is ok (no casulations), if the tank get hit it say :"hit but no serious damage" (german message: "getroffen aber keine ernsten schäden", sowas in etwa) but they leave the tank .... i though that the "bail out algorithem" only counts the hits, and the "damage" of the tank, the caliber of the guns doesnt matters. i tried it with 50 mm pak guns too (no "tungsten" (called hardkern in german), 5 guns, the crew bailed out after turn 4. 5 pak guns, and 4 flak guns, crew bailed out in turn 2. this is no flame thread or something, its realy a good game, and the test is very "special" (one tank, no infantrie, 4 flak guns, all guns can target the tank, tank on a street, 300 meter distance, flak in woods, and so on) did other peoples "feel" the same ? (tank crews bails out to fast)

The Gatekeeper Scenario (Die Pförtner) is pretty "funny", and i hate the variable turn end ... i have to play 30 turns, they say in the briefing: hold the position for 25 turns .... in this 5 turns the russian general killed 5 tanks the fight ended with a draw, at turn 25 it was a victory ... (but at turn 33 it would be a mayor defeat ) i love this game. i hope that everbody get the game pretty fast, i like to read your postings and storys. the manual: the pdf file only explain how the editor works, and the quick battle. thats it, the whole manal is in the PDF + the editor stuff. @Sgt_Kelly: np i never recognize this feature, but this time its explained in the game manual (my Combat Mission I ist pretty old, with an old manual, or i didnt read it ....). ah yes, and the quick battle editor save your last quick battle options, u dont have to do all the settings over and over again (i hope its a NEW feature ).

thx for the money, we rebuild the postservice at first (and it works, we get our games much faster then 1943 ...) The game is great, i didnt like the demo, but the full version is damm good. The performance is pretty good too. I am playing 700-1200 points quick battles and the "waiting time" is like combat mission 1. (in the demo version i have to wait 90 seconds for the next turn, now i have "no" ( > 10 seconds)delay (pentium 3 450, 196 mb ram, voodoo 3). The sound is AWESOME, i read a post "where is the atmosphere, cmbb is not combat mission 1", forget this posts, the atmosphere is brilliant. (my opinion) new features i realy like: planes (they attack many times, first with bombs, then with MG, if they have any bombs left, they use them too) quik battle features: how much ammo, how much men in a squad, fitness level, and so on. MG much better: I tried the good old tactic to overhelm an enemy position with my infantrie ... the defenders: 10 russion guys (drinking german beer) and a "valentien"(british (?) infantrie tank) attacker: 4 squads german infantrie (veteran) and the HQ of the squad (45 men german veteran infantrie) i have to cross 150 meter to get into a good position, i order to run ....... at the end of the turn, NOBODY reach the destination, most units were broken and retreat. i lost 20 men, and the russion infantrie didnt stop drinking beer ..... tank system: same game, a Panzer 3 try to kill one of this valentien tanks (60 mm steel EACH side ....), distance 450 meter ... after 5 shoots and many hits my panzer 3 retreats in panic (smart comander), this tactic saved his life. the panzer 3 can kill the other tank, BUT he need a lot of luck, and the other tank can kill him much faster, its logical to retreat, but they try to kill him. there are many small changes that realy makes life easier (u can activate "labels" above your soldiers (there is a text like (broken, low on ammo, panic) u dont have to click on every damm single unit to watch their status. its a GREAT game, and the demo is crap my english isnt very good, i hope u understand what i try to say.

It works ... i cant believe it Schrullenhaft, thanks a lot, your saved my weekend (and the whole week). Thanks a lot, again

Thank you I try this in a few seconds. Thanks a lot

I installed it on my old Pentium 133 ... no problems, i can install it .... any suggestions ?

If i try to install the game, i get an error. Afte pressing the Install button , i receive an error: Error Number 0x80040303 Description:Unkown Error Setup will terminate nothing is installed at my hard disk I try to install the game on another Computer (later). What should i do ? Computer: Pentium 450 64 MB Ram Voodoo 3 2000 Grafik Card Windows 98 Special Edition (German Version) Direct X 7.0 a (or b ? ). Newiest Graphik Drivers. Ps.: Sorry my english isnt very good, i am living in germany