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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Elvis:
Sorry I know it is way of topic but the Republican National Convention is in Philly this week and it is starting to work my nerves already and the convention hasn't even begun. The streets are filled with every police officer on the payroll, my bar is too crowded to hang out in and there are NO beggers on the street to kick.
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You can probably blame that on the liberal media. I have heard news reports of various "incidents" that have happened in Philly which were covered from a slant relating them to the upcoming GOP convention suggesting that in some way they were a bad sign.
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How could you make such an assertion? Venusians are far more advanced and capable than Martians.
A simple comparison of the Martian "ray" gun tank to the Venusian Double Plasmic roto-cannon is one example.
How completely outlandish...
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Germanboy:
Well Futbolhead, I guess we just don't agree on that CM is:
a) broken in a way that needs fixing
that these supposedly needed fixes take unreasonably long. Obviously all the other software you ever bought must have worked like a dream if you think that CM is a product in need of repair. And if, lo-and-behold, something was not in order, the producers would fix it in no time at all. Good for you. And that is what I meant by perspective. Have a look around other games and tell me that CM in comparison to them needs fixing because it is broken. And in your post you were supporting people who clamour for the patch to come before the weekend.
To me Patch 1.03 will deliver improvements. I am perfectly happy with the product as is. I look forward to whatever improvements will come, but I don't feel a desperate need for any of them.
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Logic isn't your strong suit is it? I have had problems with other pieces of software, of which I have expected to be in proper working order as well. Some were patched sooner, some later. However, that has absolutely no logical bearing on this product. You can do comparitive studies all day, but a standards shouldn't be on a sliding scale. If the whole industry slipped down several notches, you might be defending a company who released an awfully buggy program just because all the other companies are worse. That's fine for you. Not for me.
What I supported, was that I understand consumers who demand more from their products they spend their money on. And I simply pointed out an obvious level of sarcastic unrealism on the part of the post I responded to, something you have yet to acknowledge. And since you haven't personally had any problems, you apparently could care less for those that have. I haven't had any significant issues either, but I can empathize with those who have.
That must be where we differ
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Germanboy:
My irony meter just broke... (apologies to whoever came up with that one first). What exactly is not in proper working order and needs such desperate fixing that someone would have to have it this weekend? Talk about perspective.
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I can't help you with your "irony meter", but I am talking about perspective. The original post I responded to suggested people were hailing the next patch as a divine event, which is totally off base. Additionally, I never mentioned anything about me being personnally "desperate" for the patch. I look at it from a consumer's point a view, regardless of whether it just a recreational product, in that as a consumer, people expect things they pay for to work properly. Several people have reported problems which indicates the product does not function properly. I believe that perspective is totally within reason. Additionally, they want repairs done in a timely matter, some more patient, some less. These factors can drive a market, and like it or not, BTS as a business has to be concerned in part with customer satisfaction. So, Germanboy, where am I lacking in "perspective"?
I know some great "irony meter" repair people if you need a referral.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Michael emrys:
I can't decide whether it's amusing or pathetic the way some people look toward the release of a patch as if it's the Second Coming of Christ! Look folks, no matter how great a game CM is, and no matter what they put into the patch, it really can't solve all your existential problems or give meaning to your life. Sooner or later we all have to get up from our monitors and face life. And not all of it is bad, by the way...I checked.
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That has to be one of the most disproportionate analogies I have read in a long time. I follow this forum fairly closely, and I have yet to see anyone hail a new patch as a divine event, not even jokingly. I admit, maybe I missed it if it has been on here, but it certainly isn't as problematic as appears to be suggested.
I see it as reasonably understandable that people want a product to be fixed and in proper working order. I think this post lacks all sense of proportion. And I'm not teetering on whether that is amusing or pathetic, I've made my decision.
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From "The Matrix",
the "mission" has you now.
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I hardly think Fionn's comment was persuasive enough to "make" anyone think anything. That would make him responsible for someone else's decision on how to interpret something. These days a person can say just about anything and someone is going to think something of it. I think more people need to go to "insensitivity" training to learn how to not have their little feelings hurt so easily. Just my humble opinion.
Aside from that, I did not interpret Fionn's comment as rude, merely a simple statement of the obvious.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TeAcH:
Next time Fionn, don't hold back. Tell him just like it is. Don't pull any punches. Even if it makes someone think the answer you gave was a bit rude. Go for it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by G4A:
Let's see what another dictionary has to say.
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2. intr. gain unfair advantage by deception or breaking rules, esp. in a game or examination.
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- Concise Oxford Dictionary.
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You'll note that the unfair advantage is specified as being gained by deception or breaking the rules, not simply unfair advantage. However, I concede that the dictionary you reference includes that phrase. The point I made was that Stuka appears to consider any honestly gained resource as an unfair advantage to those who did not have that resource. Hard work, money, benevolent parents, studying, all those things make it "unfair" for the person who does not have or does not utilize those resources.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stuka:
P.S. There's nothing wrong with an off topic thread as long as it is entertaining.
This one was meant to be fun, but trust somone to take it seriously and start beating their chest and getting all bent out of shape.
Lighten up!
(edited for spelling mistakes, it late here!)
[This message has been edited by Stuka (edited 06-29-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I point out my disdain for someone's admission to wrongdoing and suddenly I'm beating my chest and getting bent out of shape. Whatever. Clearly we view integrity differently. I happen to think it's important. And as far as "lightening up", I believe my response was within context of the seriousness of the discussion. Again we differ I'm sure. However, I feel I have presented my position well enough at this point that I need not discuss it further. I just didn't feel someone cheating on their exam was viewed best as a "fun" topic.
Perhaps we will discuss a different topic sometime that is "fun".
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One other small detail. You (Stuka) said this thread is "off topic". Who started this thread anyway???
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Originally posted by Stuka:
"Now I'm not trying to start an arguement here,"
That's good because he admitted he cheated.
but the point I'm trying to make is that essentially, cheating is gaining an unfair advantage over the other guy, correct?
Not necessarily. Let's see what the dictionary says:
cheat (cht)
v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats.
v. tr.
To deceive by trickery; swindle: cheated customers by overcharging them for purchases.
To deprive by trickery; defraud: cheated them of their land.
To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye.
To elude; escape: cheat death.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
Copyright © 1996, 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company
Nope, nothing about unfair advantage.
"Now having parents pay for your colledge education when you aren't smart enough to have earned a scholarship on your own is an unfair advantage, especially as far as the underpriveledged,(but intelligent) guy is concerned."
Huh?? Where is the rule or law that says you have to get a scholarship to be fair about getting a college education? Paying college tuition to go to college is about as straight-up as it gets. I can't even see how you see this as "cheating". There is no logic there. But by your logic, if I win a spelling bee because I'm smarter than the other people, I have an unfair advantage and I'm cheating. If my soccer team has better atheletes and we win a game, I'm cheating because I have an unfair advantage. If I have more money than other people and I can afford more stuff in life, I'm cheating because it isn't fair. Please tell me your trolling with this logic. There are lots of things about life that aren't fair, that have absolutely nothing to do with cheating.
"Paying cash to tradesmen IS a form of cheating, it cheats the government of revenue for which all other taxpayers have to make up. You see,?"
No it's not. If the tradesman pays the appropriate percentage of tax for the sales price of the product, he's abidding by the law and there is no cheating there. The government doesn't fix the price of his merchandise, the tradesman does. The government only sets the tax rate. There are real examples of cheating you could be using, and this one isn't one of them.
"it's a grey area where every man has to draw his own line.
When you prepare your tax return, do you engage in "tax minimisation" or plain "tax dodging"?"
I abid by the law in filing my taxes. I claim all my income and I claim all the exemptions that legally apply. There is nothing "cheating" or unlawful about claiming all of the legal exemptions you can claim. That's why the law provides for exemptions. So all people who meet their criteria can use them. Your assumption seems to be that all people cheat on their taxes.
"I personally don't care whether capt'n manieri cheats or not as I know that one day a time will come where he cannot cheat and his previous actions will come back and bite him on the arse.
But I will defend his right to make his own decisions without fear or prejudice, be they right or wrong."
Defend his right to make decisions without fear or prejudice, be they right or wrong. That sounds nice, but it's BS. I guess it's unfair to have laws, because someone may fear making a decision to commit an illegal act. We shouldn't prejudice against those people who decide to commit rape or murder. We don't want to hurt there feelings or impede their right to make decisions. These are certainly more extreme examples of decision making, but they fit the principle of the logic you set forth.
"This thread is totally off base for CM, but it is a refreshing change from the "where's my CM?" or "woo hoo, I got it" ones."
At any rate, even if all of the above examples were excellent examples of cheating, it still doesn't change the fact that Capt. admitted before a large forum of people that he cheated on a test, which spoke of his character. Now, if I deduce correctly, the vast majority of "wargamers" (people likely to be in this forum) are probably people who pay lots of attention to rules. It's what makes the competition between them as level as possible. Now I know that your logic says that if one of those wargamers is smarter than the other, that isn't fair, but I would venture to say that not alot of other people on here would agree with that premise. They would rather have the playing field leveled by a system of rules for the expressed intent of finding out who is smarter, which wargamer was better. When someone announces that they cheat, and proudly I might add, that would tend to be the person that many of these guys might not want to play with anymore. At least I hope I'm right on that.
However, if a little moral pressure from a group of people who have a related interest as the Capt., namely CM, can help him realize that cheating and being proud of cheating are unacceptable types of conduct and they aren't appreciated here, maybe he can learn something about life. Something more than, everyone does it so it's okay if it's small. Something other than we don't want him to feel bad just because he's a cheater and he makes poor decision. How he feels about himself is more important than the decisions he makes.
I, for one, don't want to be a party to that line of thinking.
"P.S. Futbolhead, complete your profile a little,it'd be nice to know where and who I'm morally sparring with
" For you, anything.
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Originally posted by Stuka:
"Why is everyone jumping on this bandwagon about cheating in an exam."
Hmmm, because cheatings wrong? Just a
thought.
"Isn't it also a form of cheating to have parents who can afford to put you through a good colledge,"
No.
"or a relative/freind/parent use their influence to help you get that job you want? "
Yes, but how does that change the fact that Capt. admitted he cheated?
"Who has'nt used their buddy who works at an auto shop to get cheaper parts rather than buy directly over the counter like joe average would?"
If that person owns the shop and he comes to a business agreement for a price of a product, no it's not cheating. He's assuming the financial consequences of his actions. If it's not his business and he has no authority on the part of the owner (who then assumes the financial consequences), it's a crime. How does that change the fact that Capt. admitted to cheating?
"Who has a freind who is a plumber/electrician who does work for you for cash instead of putting it "on the books"? "
See above.
"Does Tori Spelling cheat when she gets her dad to cast her in one of his shows? "
Yes, that's why I despise Tori Spelling. How does that change the fact that Capt. admitted to cheating? How is this even relevant?
"You see gentlemen, cheating has a million forms and although I don't like it I am honest enough to admit that I am guilty of at least some of them. Who can really say that they don't cheat in some form some time? Coming down on some kid with a few notes in his pocket is kinda petty in the overall scheme of things, compared with say Bill Gates and his software monopoly deal. Live and let live. "
Because maybe if people point out the error in his ways now, he won't be a bigger cheater (like you wish to point out about others) later on in his life. All your post seems to suggest is that it's okay to cheat because everyone else does it. I can't help but think you bought that line "It depends on what the definition of 'is' is."
At any rate, you offer evidence to my
original assertion.
[This message has been edited by FutbolHead (edited 06-29-2000).]
PS: Had to edit to clarify quotes. My apologies.
[This message has been edited by FutbolHead (edited 06-29-2000).]
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Okay, I have to add Harpoon 4 to my "Games I'm Waiting For" list. But like many, I've been waiting for Diablo 2 for quite some time.
I like many types of games, some more brain-power oriented, some just fun hack 'n slash.
The game that has gotten most of my multi-player time lately is Heroes 3: SOD. That, I can play until the cows come home ( and promptly get used for cover in Normandy battles making the cows wish they stayed wherever they were before they came home ).
Thanks for the responses.
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Congrats!! I know the wait for me was frustrating as well.
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Cheating still speaks of character. Even when you rationalize it to yourself. Your character is one thing that can't be taken away, but you can certainly give it up.
I don't mean to preach, but it would seem cheating is taken so lightly these days.
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While I'm guessing the majority in here are grognards and hard core war/strategy gamers, I'm wondering how many of us will be rushing to stores today or tomorrow (depending on locale) to get Diablo 2. I know I will, I preordered the Collector's Edition two months ago.
I'm going to feel a pull between playing time of Diablo 2 and Combat Mission. The force may well be enough to rip me in half...
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One possibility is split squads rejoining. I noticed once I split a squad into two units and when they panicked, they ran into the same foxhole together and regrouped as one unit. Not sure if the scenario you were playing may have had split units from the start, but that could account for appearing to lose units.
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This has been mentioned several times in the past, and BTS is working on a patch to increase the points significantly. (5000-10000) I believe.
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Is is possible to view the entire battle as a movie uninterrupted once you finish a scenario or quick battle? If not, is this a feature that could be implemented. I think it would be cool to be able to watch battles in this fashion, post good battles on web sites for others to view.
Thanks!
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Unless you right-click the file and select "Save Target as" or "Save File as" from the context-sensitive menu. You can still d/l .cmb files that way.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PawBroon:
Originally posted by mfred:So, tell me how the warez site got the game so early in the first place????????<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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It's weird he should have more fidelity to his Warez buddies (hence supplying CM) than to this much deserving CM community.
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You've never heard the saying "There's no honor amongst theives."
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rudee:
"Only facts can be substantiated as right or wrong"
Well, if your stating that as fact - then you're wrong.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not.
o·pin·ion n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
Copyright © 1996, 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
If it is proven, it's fact, not opinion.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pillar:
Opinions can be wrong. Have the opinion that a bullet to the head won't hurt you -- then learn the hard way how wrong you are.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A bullet in your head can be substantiated as fact, that's why it's right or wrong. It's not an opinion then. Opinions can be popular or unpopular, not right or wrong in the context that person used it in. Here's the definition I'm drawing on:
o·pin·ion n.
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition
Copyright © 1996, 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
If it is proven, it's fact, not opinion.
that these supposedly needed fixes take unreasonably long.
Is there any female here at all?
in Combat Mission Archive #2 (2000)
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Scorpion:
Shrapnel - sorry for posting my 'generality.' However, I have a very close female friend who works for Gas Powered Games, and she has stated that the statistics show that wargames tend to be low on the list of what female gamers like.
That isn't what they *should* like and it isn't making a statement as to what they *should* like, it is simply a matter of numbers.
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I think it is only because this is a politically correct day and age that you actually have to explain yourself in such detail as you have here. In reading your original post, you said nothing offensive to begin with.
I welcome Shrapnel to the board. That said, I submit the following for thought.
People who treat you poorly Shrapnel don't always do so because they have a gripe against women. To blame most or all such instances on male machismo or bias would be wholly unfair. Sometimes guys (and girls) are just plain a * * holes. If you look at the way guys treat other guys you will see this. I often face and submit this to people who cry racism at the drop of a hat. There are mean people in the world, people who are mean to everyone, not just to minorities.
But on the flip side, there are also people who are way too sensitive and wish to force the "politically correct" line of thought on everyone which if not submitted to opens them up to accusations of racism, bigotry, etc. etc., regardless of the lack of truth in the accusation.
No PC disclaimers here folks. I haven't said anything that isn't true, and if you try to read anything into my statements other than what I said, that's your problem.