Wallybob Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 Not sure if they were lead balls or steel. Either way that would pack one hell of a wallop.[/QB]Steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdavis Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 Originally posted by Tha_Field_Marshall: I haven't seen the AI use tungeston rounds properly yet either. At long range when there are needed my Mk IV will hold on to them. Usually not getting a second chance to use them, I might add.Doesn't the penetration of tungsten core rounds degrade much faster over distance than standard AP? At 1000m + standard AP might actually be more effective. I'll double check, but I'm pretty sure that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 My aplogies for con fusing Gelileo & da Vinci!! As for using "T" rounds - the performance of APCR/HVAP rounds degrades VERY quickly because the round as a whole is lighter than a standard AP round, but has the same cross sectional area - so drag affects it much more. Hence worse penetration at longer ranges. Also they are very inaccurate at long ranges for the same reason - with less mass their flight path is more easily upset by any atmosphereic disturbances. Early APDS rounds were also rather inaccurate, but in their case it was because the discarding sabots would affect the flight of each round unevenly - it wasn't until teh mid-late '50's that this problem was solved. And of course there aren't APDS any in CMBB anyway! So they're only used at short range wherer they have a decent chance to hit and penetrate. Of course what constitutes "short range" varies with the gun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted October 16, 2002 Author Share Posted October 16, 2002 Yeah, but . . . Don't cha think it's just SO cool to see a short 75mm doing indirect fire of Cannister, ON-board? Boom! fwwwwwweeeeeEEEEEEEEEP (going up.) EEEEEEeeeeeeeeeoooooooooooop (coming down.) "AiieeeeeeEEEEEE!" (Shouts of suppressed infantry.) Gpig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 It asn't indirect fire - the tank could see the target!! It was AREA fire - since the target was an area of ground in which it was suspected enemy were lurking, rather than located enemy units themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted October 16, 2002 Author Share Posted October 16, 2002 Pffftt, details, details! It WAS indirect fire even though it was an area target. For the sole reason that he had elevated his gun upwards of 45 degrees. No targets (enemy infantry) were visible at the time. If a mortar crew can see his target but still fires his mortar at it, is that considered direct fire? Gpig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonS Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 Originally posted by Gpig: If a mortar crew can see his target but still fires his mortar at it, is that considered direct fire? Yes. Mike is right. It becomes indirect iff * the weapon firing (or its crew if you want to be pedantic, since inanimate objects like guns and tanks can't 'see') cannot see its intended target. * 'iff' is not a spelling mistake! [ October 15, 2002, 08:24 PM: Message edited by: JonS ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted October 16, 2002 Author Share Posted October 16, 2002 Ok. I get it. (Sniff) Way to ruin my fun with cold hard facts and indisputible logic. You big truth-monger! Gpig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 Nyah nyah nyah!! Welcome to grog-land - prepare to be corrected, reistance is fertile!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpig Posted October 16, 2002 Author Share Posted October 16, 2002 Heh heh (slaps forehead) I should have known better. Gpig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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