rexford Posted July 16, 2003 Share Posted July 16, 2003 Originally posted by Michael emrys: Hold your horses! Sexy Rexy may work slow, but he works deep. Let him do it his way and you shall be amply rewarded. Michael Sexy Rexy was my father's nickname among the women in the neighborhood. The slope effects for AP and flat nose APBC will be posted tomorrow evening, after my Viagara treatment. [ July 16, 2003, 05:51 PM: Message edited by: rexford ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyKris: A highly motivated person...I.e., "a pathologically obsessed person". Then on turn 10, when I get the inevitable highly unlikely bad break, I can curse myself for wasting so much time on penetration charts.That's right. Don't forget, BTS threw in a random factor in their to-hit and penetration tables. BTW, they worked out some really dandy graphic penetration charts for every gun vs. every armored vehicle in the game, a few of which they published. They used to be up on the website somewhere in the blurbs advertising CM. You might want to look for them, just to torture yourself. Michael [ July 16, 2003, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Michael emrys ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexford Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Slope Effect Curves Basic Stuff Russian Flat Nose APBC 10 degrees, 1.02 multiplier 15 degrees, 1.03 20 degrees, 1.06 25 degrees, 1.11 30 degrees, 1.17 35 degrees, 1.25 40 degrees, 1.42 45 degrees, 1,60 50 degrees, 1.75 55 degrees, 2.00 60 degrees, 2.20 Pointed Nose AP and U.S. APBC 10 degrees, 1.02 15 degrees, 1.06 20 degrees, 1.13 25 degrees, 1.20 30 degrees, 1.25 35 degrees, 1.40 40 degrees, 1.60 45 degrees, 1.82 50 degrees, 2.00 55 degrees, 2.20 60 degrees, 2.75 The above slope effects are estimates since they are heavily dependent upon the plate "thickness/projectile diameter" ratio. A rough estimate can also be obained by assuming that the penetration equations are straight lines between the points given in the game. If a round penetrates 100mm at 0 degrees, 80mm at 30 degrees and 42mm at 60 degrees the 20, 45 and 55 degree penetration estimates would be: 20 degrees 100 -(100-80) x (20/30) = 87mm 45 degrees 80 - (80-42) x (15/30) = 61mm 55 degrees 80 - (80-42) x (25/30) = 48mm The exact solutions would be: 20 degrees, 89mm 45 degrees, 63mm 55 degrees, 50mm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Roxanne Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 Thanks, Rexford! I really appreciate the equation for completing the CMBB tables too. I don't quite understand yet how the numbers plug in; but I'll get it after I study it for awhile. Great stuff! I'll eventually have completed tables (5 degree increments) for every gun in the game. [ July 17, 2003, 10:44 PM: Message edited by: CrankyKris ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Roxanne Posted July 18, 2003 Author Share Posted July 18, 2003 Equations understood. I've been playing around with it and the CMBB gun tables. I've noticed some interesting things by studying the tables. 1) The German Marder III (early) has a 76.2mm L/51 gun? Was this done in order to use captured Russian ammo? 2) The "AP shot" guns on the 35(t) and the 38(t)E had more punch than all the other 37mm guns firing AP with the HE charge. I wonder why they didn't stay with the shot? [ July 18, 2003, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: CrankyKris ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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