The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Z-plan is great compaing bot why dose the AXIS no declaur war on USSR??? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 my Englisch is a littel bite poor i am vrom Holland (low country's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Boggs Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Originally posted by The Dutch Army: my Englisch is a littel bite poor i am vrom Holland (low country's) Welcome to the SC Forum! You'll find that for many Americans, English is a difficult language as well. Did you know that one of the moderators is German? Small world huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 i am sorry Jim Boggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 cutte Jim Boggs give my some information SC ther are some things i dont get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Dutch Army Your English is fine. Besides, they keep changing it around so not even those of us who have to speak it can understand one another. If you mean the Z-Plan Scenario up at Otto's, I'm glad you're enjoying it. Hitler was adamant about not fighting on two fronts. He invaded Russia only after defeating France and while he deluded into thinking that the UK couldn't hinder him and also that the Soviet Union would crumble before the onset of winter. The basic plan was designed to crush the west first and then take on the Soviets, which is what I tried to reflect in the scenario. Unfortunately, there's no way to set it up so there's a war in the east with France and the UK standing neutral. That would be an interesting variant -- a situation where Poland is not allied with Britain and France but has a defence pact with the USSR! Historically that would have been unlikely, as Poland trusted Russia even less than it trusted Germany, but if the Brits and French had refused to get involved in Eastern Europe after Munich, an eastern war fouth in isolation might well have developed. An interesting aspect is Germany would have been free to import oil and other materials -- no British blockade, so she might actually have been stronger than she was in historical 1941! Welcome to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 vhenk you verry most Jersey John (in het Nederlands dank je) Jersey is ther a winter zomer in SC??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Boggs Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Originally posted by The Dutch Army: cutte Jim Boggs give my some information SC ther are some things i dont get You sir have come to the right spot. I am absolutely the worst person to give advice, but as you are now safely in the hands of Jersey John, you will have no further worries. Again welcome to the SC Community, without doubt the best on the BFC board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 vhenk you Jim Boggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I thank you Mr. Boggs , and the feeling is thoroughly mutual. Dutch There are seasonal differences in the game, but they are slight and mainly having to do with movement rate. A number of us have been arguing for a more realistic weather system, one that reflects not only The Russian Winter (which SC doesn't even hint at) but also makes Fall and Winter landings in anything other than the Mediteranean impossible. Hopefully Hubert will incorporate those things in SC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 yes if ther isint a weather systeem it cets difficulty tobite the axis in USSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzeh Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 What's the point of a Z-plan scenario if Axis has no disadvantages from it? What I mean is, does the Axis have any more disadvantages in this scenario than in the standard 39? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dutch Army Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 Panzeh The binginning of the Germans Z-plan in 1939 en it shot bin finish in the year 1947 i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJohn Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 In the scenario I put up, the war is actually beginning at a later date, hypothetically, but I didn't want to start it in 1941 or later on the SC game calendar as if it's done that way other factors come into play and the game still ends in 1947 so it becomes shorter. Taking those things into consideration, the calendar says Sept 1939 but that's an abstract starting point. My premise is that Germany would not have launched new aggressions for the next two years or so and in Sept 1941 the situation would have been nearly identical to what it was two years earlier, except for technical advances and the relative increase in readiness of the various major countries. Mussolini's timetable was set for 1941, the year Hitler had assured him would be the earliest time for a major war to begin. So, I assume Italy would have been fairly well prepared and in the war at it's start. England and France would also have stepped up preparations but would not have been able to match the increase in Germany's status. From there the rest is speculation. I don't believe either the United States or the USSR would have taken any dramatic steps during those two years and Japan would have followed a much more conservative course in the Pacific. All of which is only my personal speculation, your speculation on the situation is just as valid as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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