RobVarak Posted November 4, 1999 Share Posted November 4, 1999 During the course of my reading up on WWII AFV's, I came across a discussion of the site line problems confronted by Panter crews. (FWIW, this was in Forty's _German Tanks of WWII_) My question is this. Does CM model the differences in site line quality among the various AFV's? I know that spotting depends on the crew's experiences, as well as whether they are buttoned up, but do certain tanks have the same blind spots as their real life counterparts? I'm having as much fun with the background for CM as I am with the demo! This question's been up for awhile, and nobody's nibbled. FTR, I did check the archives. There are a number of posts about spotting in general, but nothing on differences b/w individual vehicle types. I could have just missed it, and if so I apologize. Rob [This message has been edited by RobVarak (edited 11-04-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Big Time Software Posted November 5, 1999 Share Posted November 5, 1999 Sorry, totally missed this post We really WANTED to simulate the various spotting abilities of buttoned up AFVs, but there is no comprehensive data that we figured we should drop it. Our philosophy is that if our confidence in the data is terrible, then we really should go with something generic or just leave it out. The little dribs and drabs we found were, not surprisingly, all anecdotal. Not good enough We had some minatures rules that had such values, but for all we know they made them up (most likely DID make them up). Not good enough Sigh... there should have been a wargamer attached to each AFV design team! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobVarak Posted November 5, 1999 Author Share Posted November 5, 1999 Thanks, Steve. Leave it to the military to go and ignore quantifying stuff like that for digestion by nuts like us 50 years after the fact. (Smirk) Rob (I've gotta figure out those smileys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael emrys Posted November 5, 1999 Share Posted November 5, 1999 You know, if somebody was in the right area and was motivated and a little bit lucky, they could do some useful research on this. There's someplace back East--Aberdeen maybe (somebody on the board probably knows)--where the Army has an open air museum that contains nearly every tank (and a whole slew of other AFV types) used during the Second World War. So what I'm thinking is that if somebody who lives in that area would approach the authorities there, they could probably get permission to go inside the tanks (I believe you can already go right up to them on the outside) and take measurements of sighting angles, blind spots, etc. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted November 5, 1999 Share Posted November 5, 1999 It's Aberdeen but they won't let you inside. Much better is Namur (in France), Bovington in England (they let you inside some if you know the right people on the day they have their tank parade. Obviously the BEST would be the huge tank museums in Russia since you can probably get anything there with enough hard cash... ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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